[QUOTE=Perfect Pony;6791797]
Here we go. I was seriously wronged, as have others.[/QUOTE]
Hunh?
If you were wronged by David Adamo, then start another thread about that. If you were wronged by Jill Burnell, than leave Adamo out of it. He wasn’t the one misleading owners and buyers and mistreating horses at Gray Fox Farm.
(Which is the topic of this thread, remember?)
[QUOTE=saje;6791802]
Hunh?
If you were wronged by David Adamo, then start another thread about that. If you were wronged by Jill Burnell, than leave Adamo out of it. He wasn’t the one misleading owners and buyers and mistreating horses at Gray Fox Farm.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
What has a trainer to do with the neglected horses? Just because he’s down the road doesn’t entitle you to drag him down, as well. Why not go after the feed stores, the truck dealers, the utility companies, heck, let’s just drag the whole state of California, and everyone who DARES live with 200 miles of JB, down with her.
WTF?
Correction: he didn’t rider for her.
Did he ride for her? (JB, that is) He’s an Eventer, not sure he’d be showing at the top of the H/J world.
He was mentioned, way back. I thought it was about him riding for her, but found on page 154, of this thread that it was only in reference to the atty claiming that she’s groomed for him. How that brings him into this mess is beyond me.
[QUOTE=Sonesta;6791711]
I don’t think there is any state in which a lawyer can be forced to take a case. But you guys need to remember that our entire American legal justice system is based upon the right of every citizen to be represented by competent legal counsel. Why would you vilify a lawyer for upholding that system?
So sad to know that you think lawyers should leave someone hanging in the wind just because some COTH members disapprove.[/QUOTE]
What, you don’t trust the computer screen attorneys, vets, farriers, accountants, and zoning code enforcers to mete out justice? 
A couple pages back, commenters were dismissing the examining vet’s report because she was only 2 years out of vet school, and obviously less experienced with horses than COTH members with… zero years of vet school, and not at the scene.
You know why all vets and farriers don’t come to a neglect scene and kick the owner’s butt? Because sometimes a horse professional might think that by acting all level headed and sane, they’ll have a chance to convince the owner to make things better. You can go in and immediately alienate the owner, or you can act professional and polite and hope to keep the owner’s attention and get them to take action.
It’s not the same as being called in by Animal Control or by USDA to inspect a puppy mill, where you’re representing the enforcement agency. If you’re working as a private vet or farrier, on some rare occasions you actually can educate an owner to do a better job.
Usual disclaimer, not excusing Burnell, blah blah, nor is Burnell a candidate for educating like some new owners.
Burnell may simply be a user at heart, but I also think she is mentally ill in someway. It’s not an excuse, but a possible reason why things went from top-of-the-world to mud pit in a relatively short time frame.
And there, but for the grace of gods or chance, go most of us. It can’t be fun being her 
(Yes, yes, I KNOW horses and people have suffered at her hands, I DO feel worse for them. But I can’t help feeling sorry for her too. I’m a sap, so sue me… or drag me over the coals like many of you have everyone else you can possibly think of. )
So. . .Jill is mentally ill, and for the grace of G-d I’d be ripping off people and neglecting horses? The condition of her horses is typical of other horses in that area? Attorneys take whatever case comes along, and it’s their duty to represent unethical clients? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
So sorry. I just got back online. I edited post #4119 and removed
any reference to Eqdrvr…
My main computer just got a major virus and I am limited online
right now.
[QUOTE=saje;6791802]
Hunh?
If you were wronged by David Adamo, then start another thread about that. If you were wronged by Jill Burnell, than leave Adamo out of it. He wasn’t the one misleading owners and buyers and mistreating horses at Gray Fox Farm.
(Which is the topic of this thread, remember?)[/QUOTE]
I referenced the people he is associating with. The Lawyer who is representing JB (and unlike a public defender, has no obligation to defend her) as well as the sleazy breeder who owns the facility he is training out of. Just sad that I thought more of him than that…but the company you keep and all.
[QUOTE=Perfect Pony;6792218]
I referenced the people he is associating with. The Lawyer who is representing JB (and unlike a public defender, has no obligation to defend her) as well as the sleazy breeder who owns the facility he is training out of. Just sad that I thought more of him than that…but the company you keep and all.[/QUOTE]
Isn’t this you that posted this thread, looking to train with him?
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?363315-David-Adamo
Someone’s judgy pants are a little tight, I see. Must be nice to be so Perfect and all knowing, eh?
[QUOTE=Callmeacab;6792236]
Isn’t this you that posted this thread, looking to train with him?
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?363315-David-Adamo[/QUOTE]
If he is indeed at the farm mentioned in the last post on that thread, you may want to go back & read PP’s posts about the Hanoverian mare she purchased from said breeder. It will explain a lot. 
:yes:
Let’s keep the focus on JB and her actions.
If she has a problem With the breeder of her mare or Adamo, that’s too bad. It has nothing to do with the case at hand.
[QUOTE=COTHalter44;6792323]
If he is indeed at the farm mentioned in the last post on that thread, you may want to go back & read PP’s posts about the Hanoverian mare she purchased from said breeder. It will explain a lot. :yes:
Let’s keep the focus on JB and her actions.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I bought my mare from her, and a friend bought another mare from her that has since had to be euthanized. She uses my mare’s twin sister as a broodmare, and is known to breed lots of horses with “issues” But God forbid anyone say anything. I mean, the irony, on this thread!!
And yes, I inquired after him. What does that have to do with anything? I decided for several reasons to send my horse elsewhere. And this lawyer being a client is just another nail in the coffin for me.
But seriously, none of this is anything new. Finding a honest trainer or horse dealer in California that actually cares about the horses more than lining their pocketbook is almost impossible. JB just finally got bad enough to get caught…
[QUOTE=COTHalter44;6792323]
If he is indeed at the farm mentioned in the last post on that thread, you may want to go back & read PP’s posts about the Hanoverian mare she purchased from said breeder. It will explain a lot. :yes:
Let’s keep the focus on JB and her actions.[/QUOTE]
Ah, OK, will try to find it. Even so, there are only so many places around to train that have cross country courses. That is the only one that I know of, other than up in Santa Rosa.
[QUOTE=saje;6791866]
Burnell may simply be a user at heart, but I also think she is mentally ill in someway. It’s not an excuse, but a possible reason why things went from top-of-the-world to mud pit in a relatively short time frame.
And there, but for the grace of gods or chance, go most of us. It can’t be fun being her
I suppose a narcissist with no conscience who behaves in antisocial ways could be deemed mentally ill. But I consider that a copout and think people should take responsibility for themselves and their animals. I am curious to know if she ever had job and earned her way to “the top of the world”, or if she was always one to live in a trashy mudpit but came into a windfall such as her inlaws’ equity line?
At least with the prompt involvment of the Marin Humane services hopefully this situation will not turn out like the one going on in LA at present.
I’m not absolutely 100% sure but I believe that Jill is/was a nurse.
[QUOTE=Galileo1998;6792378]
I’m not absolutely 100% sure but I believe that Jill is/was a nurse.[/QUOTE]
Yes, a former RN (I heard she was fired from her last job) though her license is still active.
Go to Registered Nurse and enter her last name in the search box.
http://www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpub/wllquery$.startup
Getting all confused here. Why must we not mention equinedrivers name? (just saw someone mention removing her name) And does someone know that Adamo is actually working for Jill? Or is he guilty til innocent?
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