Don Frederic

[Dan]

[QUOTE=Sunnydays;6202362]
Neat. I think a San Amour match might be super. What about a very refined Sir Donerhall? I worry that is not enough “like-to-like”, with the mare being super refined, even if her genotype is not.[/QUOTE]

I tried checking your website to see if you had a Sir Donnerhall mare there. I have really liked all of your Sir Donnerhall’s from your Contessa mare.

Dan

[Walnut_Farm]

ok, doubled checked with someone who knows lol :lol:

was his full brother that was turned down, and later sold for big money to holland.

Looks like Don Frederic will be going to under saddle licesing

[TWFarm]

Lastest from Judy Yancey. She emailed me this morning and said she is bringing in some Don Frederic semen in her next shipment from PS.

[alexandra]

Hey linda - what are you saying there ?!? You checked with someone who knows ???

His fullbrother was turned down, than was sold to Ramsbrock and went to Westfalen licensing. There he was bought by Nijhof. I know ! I have literally lived with the breeder’s family.

[Walnut_Farm]

[QUOTE=alexandra;6202847]
Hey linda - what are you saying there ?!? You checked with someone who knows ???

His fullbrother was turned down, than was sold to Ramsbrock and went to Westfalen licensing. There he was bought by Nijhof. I know ! I have literally lived with the breeder’s family.[/QUOTE]

LOL, yes, since the first story I was told had the brothers confused I was interested in breeding to him, just need an hanoverian approved stallion. and when I asked first time, that was what I was wrongly told. Not saying you dont know lol

so, all good, and hopefully he will get his approval

[Dan]

[QUOTE=TWFarm;6202843]
Lastest from Judy Yancey. She emailed me this morning and said she is bringing in some Don Frederic semen in her next shipment from PS.[/QUOTE]

Wow! That didn’t take long.

Dan

[Daisy1066]

I was wondering when that pendulum swing might start! They simply can’t go with more refinement or they’ll end up looking like saddlebreds.

Although, I love both ends of the Hanoverian spectrum. I see wonderful qualities all the way through.

[Dan]

Our mare in Germany was bred to him this weekend. Fingers crossed.

Our contact in Germany told us that he is being heavily used right now. They had to really fight to be able to use him.

Dan

[alexandra]

That’s what I heard, too.

[Sunnydays]

Dan - what is the breeding on your mare in Germany? – and best wishes that she catches.

Encouraging to see the high interest in Germany where Don Frederic is less promoted than some other youngsters. I do hope he is approved Hanoverian.

I am trying to figure out what type of mare might cross well with him — or, more important, whether there is a type of cross to avoid. Does anyone who has seen him have an opinion?? Thanks.

[Dan]

I’ll show off the San Amour mare more after she finishes her mare performance test. I don’t want to jinx her. :-). She’s very nice!

I have no doubts that Don Frederic will be approved Hannoverian.

I would not cross him to a mare that has a thick throatlatch. I would think your Don Bosco/Prince Orac xx mare would be a perfect cross.

Our mare Farina is also probably a perfect cross for him. However, we already have plans to breed her to Wolkentanz II for this year.

Dan

[Sunnydays]

Thanks Dan (I do love your Farina!)

PS - My Don Bosco is in foal to Wolkentanz II, due in 8 weeks. He certainly makes good horses.

[rebecca_yount]

WOWZA!!! I love him! My kind of mover.

[madamlb]

Are Don Frederico’s really meant to be difficult :o

I have a yearling gelding … already 15.1hh very, very confident and I can see him being a bit of a dick because of that, but he’s very brave in new situations and quite easy going. I find almost universally, the Don Frederico’s have truly amazing hind ends

[Dan]

[QUOTE=Sunnydays;6230026]
Thanks Dan (I do love your Farina!)

PS - My Don Bosco is in foal to Wolkentanz II, due in 8 weeks. He certainly makes good horses.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Sunnydays

Dan

[Dorienna]

[QUOTE=rebecca yount;6230069]
WOWZA!!! I love him! My kind of mover.[/QUOTE]

i just watched the video of him from the recent stallion show, and i must say he took my breath away! so uphill, my kind of mover as well:-) i’m interested to see what he’s going to produce

[Dune]

I have a friend who has a mare she’s going to breed to him. We’ve had many discussions about the temperament, but she’s so enthralled with HIM. And yes, she’s young, so that works in HER favor. :winkgrin: :lol:

[Sunnydays]

Just anecdotal - a sample of 1 …my friend (a petite 5’ tall, a good rider) purchased a 3 yo Don Frederico Hano filly last fall. The mare is less than 15.2 h, chestnut, feminine and sweet as pie. Very workmanlike undersaddle, pretty mover, everything you’d want in a mare. No temperament issues at all!

[Donella]

I had two DF’s from the same mare. Mare was a bit of a nervous type but not difficult…was started by amateur, earned her Elite mare status ect. Her first filly by DF is opinionated, very alpha and a very pro ride. Nice mover, super hind leg. The two full siblings died of freak accidents but reports of the colt were that he had a similar nature to the above mentioned filly. The third was born at my place and died at a year old but seemed a bit more chill than the others.

I now have a filly by another stallion out of the same dam as the above DF foals and she is different in her temperament (by Wolkentanz II actually).

Anyways, I know maybe five other people that have them and all of those people report the same type of temperament and then after reading Fannie Mae’s article I think obviously he is very consistent in throwing these types of horses. As much as I like Don Frederic I don’t think many riders in NA can ride and develop (or want to ride) horses with temperaments like that. Kind of the same argument with Jazz.

For the right mare it might work magic though…

[madamlb]

Huh, well mine is a confident little dude. I think the mares are all quite little by Don Fred- seen lots between 15.3-16.1hh the boys seem to be big … I would be surprised if mine doesn’t make 17hh … out of a 16.1hh mare but he is just enormous. Mare is R/D lines so that might help with the temp.

Actually, he really reminds me of this stallion … mine is a liver, very good mechanics, amazing canter, very good shoulder and hind end, very pretty head and of course as Fannie May described it ‘that hint of evil in the eye’ that is Darcy!

I can’t be sure how he’ll be under saddle but so far he’s easy going, though I don’t get the impression he would suffer fools gladly. At this stage though, he’s a keeper as a long term dressage horse for moi!
I have no good current pictures of him, but this was him as a 7 week old foal.