You could contact Canter, of course, Rerun, TRF or any of the local rescues with a good reference. I love the rescue I got my horse from but it is a bit far from you…
Good luck
FW, I think you have revealed the true beef these people have. It’s that old “established pipeline” that has been compromised and now they’re stomping their feet and crying no fair!
Sorry folks, CANTER is making it MORE fair.
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FW, I think you have revealed the true beef these people have. It’s that old “established pipeline” that has been compromised and now they’re stomping their feet and crying no fair!
Sorry folks, CANTER is making it MORE fair.[/QUOTE]
But the falacy of that is … the hunter people don’t want thoroughbreds any more!? All they want is the fancy big round warmbloods. That pipeline has dried up long ago, and not because of organizations like CANTER.
At one point in time, a number of folks involved in adoption organizations were thinking about launching a “Thoroughbred Marketing” project - an effort to showcase OTTB’s being successful in new careers - butting a branding on it (logo, slogans, etc.) and so on.
The economic situation has put a crimp in those plans - but if there anyone out there who would like to give it a try, please contact Bev Straus at Mid-Atlantic Horse Rescue as I believe she was trying to organize an effort.
Good grief, you have to have a pretty active imagination to criticize CANTER. I was shocked to see what this thread was all about. What trainer wouldn’t welcome CANTER in his barn; no one has a larger viewing audience for people selling tbs than CANTER. What an incredible service!
And why dis Tb rescues? Those I know really do buy their horses in the parking lot at NH or at the sale just above slaughter price.
And all the people I know involved with ottbs have both track and rescue experience and love racing! Maybe you need both experiences to see the good in both.
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I am living in South East Florida. I have a place in Wellington to keep a horse and am looking for an OTTB that doesn’t have the will to race or a slow goer but still sound. I would love to give a good horse a new vocation. Any suggestions on who to talk to?[/QUOTE]
Try this link. I’ve placed horses through this service before.
http://www.thehorse.com/Horses/Available.aspx?breed=thoroughbred
You can also try Adena Springs adoption program. I think it’s still up and running.
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Quick question:…
what is the tax write-off for donating a horse to CANTER??[/QUOTE]
Money donated to CANTER is tax deductable, but donating a horse to them I am really unclear about. Is it possible?
By the way, Adena’s site has lovely horses…
There are some of us still out there, you just have to know where to look.
You have a pm
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At one point in time, a number of folks involved in adoption organizations were thinking about launching a “Thoroughbred Marketing” project - an effort to showcase OTTB’s being successful in new careers - butting a branding on it (logo, slogans, etc.) and so on.
The economic situation has put a crimp in those plans - but if there anyone out there who would like to give it a try, please contact Bev Straus at Mid-Atlantic Horse Rescue as I believe she was trying to organize an effort.[/QUOTE]
You have a pm
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There are some of us still out there, you just have to know where to look. ;)[/QUOTE]
Good!!
I remember when there were special classes for “non-thoroughbred hunters”. Now it’s the other way around.
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Now, if all the CANTER volunteers have “first pick” of the “good horses”, wouldn’t it reason that I would have the nicest ones??? so funny, such flawed logic.
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(giggles) I don’t think anyone is very worried about YOU finding all the nice ones and keeping them to your self.
And like you said, you’re not in it for tax deductions. In other words, you’d do it anyway. Doesn’t that mean the tax deductions only help you, not the horses?
Don’t feed the greenie troll. Let this stupid thread die a well earned death.
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Oh I dont doubt that the wrinkly old guys in their race cars are working the system too. My original point was that CANTER does more for the volunteers than the horses, partly thru tax deductions and partly thru getting first crack at the best horses.
Dont tell me you’re too young to remember that before CANTER figuring out a way to get first crack at the best horses coming off the track was a full time job for a lot of people.[/QUOTE]
This made me laugh, really. Special Horses Inc is a baby compared to CANTER as we are relatively new. And my co-enabler, equineartworks and I, do all the fundraising and networking for free. I don’t know how much time I spend with it, I do it as I can, because I feel it is important. eaw spends an enormous amount of time with the website and networking. For free. We also donate in our own fundraising campaigns. I would venture to say that most people are like us in that we don’t always even claim the donations.
The people involved with rescue/rehoming horses with whom I have come into contact amaze me. They take so little for themselves, and give so much - because they really are all about the horses. And those are just the ones that went through all the paperwork to organize and become 501©3, like CANTER. There are also a number of incredible individuals who quietly go about their way helping horses - like Laurierace, who has helped several - to those who help, one horse at a time.
The best horses. You wouldn’t have considered mine to be that - yet he is, to me. No one would have considered Dumplin - a 35+ year old mini - to be “one of the best horses.” But he was, to equineartworks. It’s a relative term.
And really, it’s not all about the money, for so many of us. It really is all about the horses.
can of worms
Wow guys…
I didn’t think my question would spur all of this… I had assumed this conversation was dead…
thanks for all the information as far as the CANTER stuff… I believe the mare is getting ready to run soon- so we shall see…
Owners getting a tax write-off?
So back to the original question, do owners get a tax write off for donating a horse to CANTER.
Being from Canada, I do not know US tax laws, but I am puzzled about how an owner can get a tax receipt for giving a horse to CANTER.
When someone donates something like artwork to a charity they are given a tax write off for the fair market value of that artwork. This is because they have made a donation in kind. They have taken something with tangible value and given it to the charity. The charity then auctions of the donated item, hopefully getting more than market value for it, both sides win.
Now when someone donates a horse to an organization like CANTER, isn’t it because the horse no longer has an market value? Doesn’t the fact that the horse is donated to a re-homing organization mean no one will buy it? (ie the horse has no value?)
So how can someone get a tax receipt (or write off), if they have “donated” something of no value? Has the IRS no clued in? Or are the tax laws different in the US?
No, they are donating something that has a value. May or may not be the value quote on the receipt but at the very least they are worth meat price, not that CANTER would let any of them go to slaughter. CANTER in turn hopefully adopts them out for a fee.
Its different for the trainer listings on CANTER though. Those are bought and sold just like any other sales transaction so there would be no charitable tax deductions with those sales.
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May or may not be the value quote on the receipt [/QUOTE]
ooops a daze - eeeee
That was the wrong thing to post here.
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ooops a daze - eeeee
That was the wrong thing to post here.[/QUOTE]
I’m not sure I understand your post - for donations in kind, the person donating the item states a value. If the IRS chooses to take issue with that, it is between the IRS and the donor. The recipient who issues the receipt just acknowledges that the donation was received.
This is standard. For example, I may have bought a pair of boots on superclearance for $50. I donate them to a rescue. Original price for the item, in season, may have been $150. Rescue sells them at a fundraiser for $70. I could still claim I made a donation in kind for $150. The rescue is not responsible for the value placed on the receipt.
WTF is with all the trolls coming here each night? Is there like a troll bar that closes as soon as the mods head home for the night? The trolls stumble out drunk off their little hairy troll asses and attempt to disrupt the boards?
Funny - on Off Course lately it seemed to be “Pick on AC4H” every weekend…then I come here and it’s “Pick on CANTER and Laurierace” every day.