I know she’s part appy, but is it normal for there to be this drastic of a coat change? See here…
She had pink/red skin and creme on legs/barrel. Everyone thought she’d be getting lighter or staying the same color.
Someone told me they thought she was smokey black, the vets are unsure but think maybe roaning. Dad is jet black 3/4 appy, mom is dark bay TB X. Dad throws LOTS of roans or jet black.
I will get new photos next time I go out. She’s my first baby, so I’m just really curious.
Dark chestnut…black based foals will have black mane/tail even if the tips are reddish. Mom and dad are both hetero for black and you got the one in four chance of chestnut in that mix. Eye color will change to darker brown over the next couple months…that blue grey color is just baby color…just like puppies and human babies. If neither parent is roaned she won’t be either.
liver or dark chestnut
Drastic changes are quite common
this
http://www.blacktreefarm.com/images/Foals/Franka/4_20_08_blanketTO/index.html
to this
http://www.blacktreefarm.com/Pages/Horses/Foals/Franka2008.html
although there is the grey modifier involved
she is not back based. Do you see any black point? I can even see the red in the “new” color. Look at her nose
Yep, absolutely not anything black-based - not black, not smoky black, nothing. 100% red-based, 100% chestnut, doing what chestnuts do best on the foal shed 
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she is not back based. Do you see any black point? I can even see the red in the “new” color. Look at her nose[/QUOTE]
You’re seeing the red hairs that are still hanging on. She’s got a few thin patches where there’s still baby hair, especially around her eyes and nose. I’ll take better pictures later.
Oh well, whatever she turns out to be, hopefully it won’t be a light chestnut. I’ll be happy with dark chestnut :yes:
I’m voting for dark chestnut, as well.
I had one similiar last year, mom was gray, dad was gray, mom had previously had bays and grays for me. No chance of any “unusual” colors. Foal was born light, shed very dark and this year is an in-between color Not orange, but not liver.
Here she is at 2 days old: http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l31/HillsideHRanch/Abdullahfilly0001.jpg
And here she is a few months later at her inspection:
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l31/HillsideHRanch/untitled.jpg
Nope 
The new, dark color is still very much red-based, just a lot darker. Think dried blood vs red blood - it can look pretty black as it dries, but it still has the red color behind the “black” look
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Nope The new, dark color is still very much red-based, just a lot darker. Think dried blood vs red blood - it can look pretty black as it dries, but it still has the red color behind the “black” look[/QUOTE]
Thank you ^^^^THIS^^^^
I find that the chestnut always comes in darker the first year but may very well be a normal shade of chestnut the next. Most chestnut foals seem to look livery when they shed their foal hair. My sister had a palomino colt last year that shedded out to a chocolate palomino color, this year he shedded out to a regular palomino color. Wouldn’t even know it was the same horse.
My vet said foals always end up darker than their foal coat color.
This first shed looks like liver chestnut to me as well.
They don’t always end up darker though. There are some shades of palomino that are born and stay very light I have a friend now with a palomino filly ,and while it’s obvious she’s starting to shed by the texture difference around her face, her new coat is BARELY discernible in color form the foal coat. Since the foal coat is now bleached compared to right when she was born, I’d wager her new coat is probably a bit lighter even than her original foal coat color.
But usually, yes, the first foal shed is almost always darker. However, it’s very often the case that their first color, the color they are after birth and after drying, is pretty close to their adult color. It just bleaches so much after that.
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I’m voting for dark chestnut, as well.
I had one similiar last year, mom was gray, dad was gray, mom had previously had bays and grays for me. No chance of any “unusual” colors. Foal was born light, shed very dark and this year is an in-between color Not orange, but not liver.
Here she is at 2 days old: http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l31/HillsideHRanch/Abdullahfilly0001.jpg
And here she is a few months later at her inspection:
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l31/HillsideHRanch/untitled.jpg[/QUOTE]
ok Hillside…is that an ET recip mare in both photos? cause that mare is NOT grey! 
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ok Hillside…is that an ET recip mare in both photos? cause that mare is NOT grey! :D[/QUOTE]
Lol, yes that is an ET mare. I was wondering if someone was going to think I was crazy for not clarifying that
Absolutely chesnut. She may or may not remain a dark shade. I’ve had foals shed out like this that grew up to be a perfectly normal average shade of orange.
Updated picture
Ugh…she’s quite an unattractive color right now. Her neck is almost done shedding, and her front legs are starting. Hopefully within the next few weeks she’ll be done…she looks so funny and mangy.
This was in the last week, better lighting.
I don’t even know what to call it, other than eww 
In certain lighting, it doesn’t look terrible. I still love her, nonetheless…she just looks ridiculous.
I feel for you, LaLuna. My filly looks like a mule–she’s bay going gray, so lots of gray around her eyes and on her muzzle. Ugh. It’s a good thing foals start off so cute or humans wouldn’t want to put up with the horrible foal shedding.
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I feel for you, LaLuna. My filly looks like a mule–she’s bay going gray, so lots of gray around her eyes and on her muzzle. Ugh. It’s a good thing foals start off so cute or humans wouldn’t want to put up with the horrible foal shedding.[/QUOTE]
Aww, I bet she’s a cute baby “mule” Mine has just looked like a raccoon for the last two weeks…with the ugliest colors possible. Everyone has been making fun of her 
My 2010 Contucci filly was born orange-y chestnut. Just what I expected from 2 chestnut parents. Then she started shedding out…she was turning liver! She was dark chocolate all fall and winter then started rapidly lightening up as spring approached. She just passed her 1st birthday and is a lighter chestnut than her mom. Oh, well…
Chestnut is a strange colour and most foals go through several different shades of chestnut before they settle on their final colour. Not all of them do this though. I bred two heterozygous greys together last year and got a dayglo orange foal. When he shed his foal coat you couldn’t tell because the fur underneath was dayglo orange too. In winter he simply grew lots of dayglo orange fluff. :lol:
His full brother is also chestnut but very dark. I think he is going to go grey although I can’t find any grey hairs on him yet.
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