Here is the basis of my fascination: for a highly successful, rational individual, on what basis did he think dealing with his problem with Kanarek was best addressed by getting a gun, driving or walking to her residence, and shooting her? No matter how excruciatingly annoying he thought she was (valid or not), why did he attempt to kill her rather than fire her as a client and give her 30 days notice on the rental?
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You couldn’t help yourself, could you? I know that I’ve seen the movie, but I can’t remember what has to be done to make Beetlejuice go away…it is repeat the name several times? Maybe if we all do it at the same time?
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She’s doing a fine job of this all by herself.
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Yesterday must have been an extremely slow dressage day in Wellington.
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I agree, and makes you wonder, if he could do that, what else has he done? Not that I think he’s tried to murder anyone else but him using such a violent and brutal method to deal with a problem? Yeah, that’s not normal.
And humans being hard-wired to look for danger to recognize it again, yeah, his actions are getting the attention, because we all want to be able to recognize a person who is capable of doing what he did.
Edited to reflect facts
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Pffffft.
Makes you wonder how many buttons were pushed to get him to this point. Systematically pushed.
Makes you wonder what most people’s breaking points are. We all have them. We just do not know when.
***** Typical disclaimer of no one deserves to be shot.
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Its not the breaking point, it’s how you break.
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Not really. I don’t think most normal people’s breaking point results in attempted murder charges, especially when one is a large man, and the unarmed victim is a small woman. No matter how annoying she might be to him and random internet women obsessed with defending him.
This continues to be one of the weirdest most disfunctional coth trends. It is mind boggling and sad.
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He hasn’t murdered anyone, so there’s no “anyone else.”
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Good point, I have changed my post te reflect that.
THIS. Aside from abusive relationships where they too often end up with the female partner being killed, attempting to murder someone with whom you disagree is not a normal occurrence, even when pushed to the breaking point. No matter how crazy, annoying, frightening, irritating, or even dangerous the person with whom you are disagreeing with is.
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When this trial finally begins, Kanarek will be as much on trial as Barisone, at least in the court of public opinion. Until you’ve lived someone’s experience, it is easy to gloss over and make excuses for all sorts of behavior. Taking a look at the known facts of this case, it is hard to not take a side.
Maybe there will be movement soon.
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So, @eggbutt, are you saying that you have inside information that Barisone was not offered or is not taking a plea deal, and there will be a trial?
I would be shocked if Barisone’s defense lawyers tried to impugn the victim (the victim of attempted murder) and paint Barisone as the victim.
The known facts of the case are that Barisone walked up to Kanarek saying he wanted to talk, then shot her twice in the chest at point blank range. It seems obvious that he was under considerable stress and frustration with Kanarek, but I don’t see how that is going to amount to a successful defense.
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“Known facts?”
According to whom? Have you seen surveillance video with audio that the rest of us have not seen?
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It appears @eggbutt said or implied none of those things, but great reach on your part!
And you have no idea what was said or not said unless you were there! “Known facts”. How do you know these facts?
So damn par for the course and no big surprise!
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My understanding was that he did not deny shooting her.
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She said “When this trial finally begins”, which implies that she knows that there will be a trial, that is, that there will not be a plea agreement.
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I can’t make this any clearer to you. But, you really need to accept the FACT (FACT) that you are not privy to a single FACT of this case, which is beside the obvious, “a man shot at two people, blasting two point plank 9mm bullets into one victim’s chest, missing the other victim’s head by less than inch.”
You don’t know Barisone. You definitely don’t know me, though it seems you wish you did & obviously feel dissed about the fact I would not engage in your very well known drama antics in our geographical location. GET OVER IT. I know exactly WHY you think you, all the way in NC would know anything taking place at a show barn in NJ. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you were used. Did you really think someone called YOU for any other reason than to do what you’re best known for… spreading lies & gossip? MB had literally never heard of you. Ever.
Additionally, I will not be on trial. Maybe you’ve missed the memo, but, I haven’t committed a crime. As far as the “court of public opinion,” THE only opinions which matter to me are my trainers opinions… And, they’ve never heard of you either. Probably best. They train dressage/proper riding. Discipline. Can’t say the same for your affiliate barn or it’s inhabitants.
Since you believe you’re “in the know,” - why don’t share with the class what you DO know about this case! You’re not a witness - I am & therefore can’t share anything, as much as I really, really want to. What’s Michael’s defense? Oh. You don’t know? Guess you’re not as well informed as you believe your (delusional) self to be. Assume you know just as little, or less about ALL other FACTS regarding this case. Buh-bye.
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As usual, CORRECT! He has still made no such denial. If he does, well, that would be a very surprising turn of events. Oh man, I so wish I could say more. You’re on the right track. And everyone on this thread & others know it. They may dislike that fact, but it remains a fact.
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Not a lawyer, nor have I ever played one on TV, but I’m pretty confident there is nothing legally precluding a witness from sharing what they saw other than not sharing your actual testimony with other witnesses and encouragement to not jeopardize the defendant’s right to a fair trial.
The following is from the dept of justice website, district of New Jersey: https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/victim-witness/handbook
- Can I discuss the case with others?
- Defense attorneys and investigators working for defendants often contact victims and witnesses. It is not unusual or inappropriate for the defense lawyer or an investigator for the defense to contact you for an interview. While you may discuss the case with them if you wish to do so, you do not have to talk to them. The choice is entirely yours. Below are some general suggestions and tips when discussing the case.
- Please let the United States Attorney’s office know if you have agreed to be interviewed by the defense attorney or investigator. You may want to bring an additional person, chosen by you, to witness the interview.
- Always tell “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.”
- The Assistant United States Attorney may discuss some parts of the case with you to inform you and prepare you for testifying. However, there may be some instances when the Assistant United States Attorney may not be able to answer some of your questions because it may endanger the case or other witnesses.
- After you testify in court, you are not allowed to tell other witnesses what was said during the testimony until after the case is over. Please do not ask other witnesses about their testimony, and do not volunteer information about your own testimony.
- Know to whom you are talking when you discuss the case. We encourage you not to discuss the case with members of the press before or during the trial as the defendant’s right to a fair trial could be jeopardized by any publicity.
Also, we can’t conflate being on trial with committing a crime, that whole innocent until proven guilty bit, or not being on trial with not having committed a crime.
If you choose not to share your self-described eye witness observations here, that’s cool and I totally applaud that. Let’s just keep what facts we can straight.
I’m just waiting to see what actually comes out at the trial, if I’m still interested at that point in time. Very sad situation for all involved.
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