This was posted by Draftmare on the Off Course pages but it made me laugh so I have put it here as well
https://www.facebook.com/pg/buckskinoldenburgstallion/videos/?ref=page_internal
Except I can’t edit the correct link! This is this it https://www.facebook.com/buckskinold...PAGES_TIMELINE
At least he is good to look at in his other videos, not just the hunting one
Do you bel went to his very first party today (New Years Day Hunt) and behaved like a pro. He has been sat on less than a dozen times and hacked up the road and back twice, yet he stood like a rock at the covers and cantered across fields with the pack, on a soft contact. He even jumped a couple of rails, receiving a huge cheer from the followers. We are so looking forward to watching his progress.
It says so much about the temperament of Legrande babies, everyone should have one [IMG]https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v6/f2/1/16/1f60d.png)??
Do you bel went to his very first party today (New Years Day Hunt) and behaved like a pro. He has been sat on less than a dozen times and hacked up the road and back twice, yet he stood like a rock at the covers and cantered across fields with the pack, on a soft contact. He even jumped a couple of rails, receiving a huge cheer from the followers. We are so looking forward to watching his progress.
It says so much about the temperament of Legrande babies, everyone should have one [IMG]https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v6/f2/1/16/1f60d.png)???
Yes, I can believe it. IN the UK horses are expected to perform a range of tasks and this one will have been shown, hacked, jumped as well as obviously having a good character. I personally have been out on a pony that had never been hunting in its life and it was a true superstar with manners to burn, jumping everything, stopping on request, giving plenty of room to other horses and we would have stayed out longer except he wasn’t fit enough for more than a couple of hours.
I am from the UK, and I think they are telling porkies.
How can he have been shown, hacked, and jumped, and still have been “sat on less than a dozen times and hacked up the road and back twice” ?
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The links take me to a cheerful smiley. :lol:
Willesdon spoke in general terms about UK horses being “shown, hacked and jumped”, not about this particular horse.
When I was in Ireland my partner’s brother (who was hunting the Ormond pack at the time) gave me a lovely 4 yo ID cross to hunt for the 5 weeks. Said he was “a bit sharp, but fine” so away I went - the morning after we had arrived in Ireland. Had a great first hunt, jumped drains etc no problem at all. When we got home I asked how much the horse had done cos I really liked him. He’d been broken in 4 weeks earlier and had never hunted. I would never have guessed! So it most certainly can be done. =)
For all of the doubters, there are pics of him on the hunt. Judge for yourself, not sure why this is drawing so much criticism from people. Someone posts a few pics on their Facebook about their horses and the hunt-- wow-- the Mcjudgerpants come out in full force…
It wasn’t the pictures of a horse out hunting that drew the attention. It was the extraordinary fiction that accompanied it
I am removing my earlier post because I misread Equibrit’s post. I thought she was referring to the stallion in the Off Course video rather than one of his get. I apologize sincerely for offending anyone.
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well … that worked well.
The above is a <sigh> followed by a row a red hearts.
I hope no one bothered to click all the links.
I saw the first video of Legrande hunting on FB - he is a VERY nice stallion indeed 
As for the second video (I have not seen) - Equitbrit - I don’t know if you go on HHO but it reminds me of a post there a good few years ago now (that caused a lot of discussion), about a stallion that was sat on for apparently the second time, and was put over a course of 2-3ft jumps with much boasting about his wonderful clear round, great temperament, scope, easiness etc. Seems to be a UK stallion owner thing backing & jumping. I don’t get who the stallion owners are trying to impress - such antics are NOT going to impress owners of high calibre mares who understand about backing and bringing along young horses.
This scenario often seems to happen with unlicensed stallions backed late at 5 years plus with owners that want to try and pretend they have ‘caught up’ with their peers or that the late start was not down to issues with temperament or injury or simply not being good enough to grade into their very stringent parent studbook (e.g. KWPN, German verbands) & so not being started at the usual age. Instead they are backing them late (now in a very big rush) by choice.
I suspect this is one of those older stallions who will soon go forward for AES grading. After all, not many studs would canter and jump a 2 and a half/2 and three quarters colt after only being sat on for approx 2 weeks, and if only ridden outside the school twice? Not the actions of someone with a valuable KWPN, Oldenburg etc colt destined to grade into his patent studbook & be performance tested this spring.
This stallion may be very nice boy - particularly if by the wonderful Legrande. Irrespective that he is probably older & not coming 3 - tendons and ligaments don’t condition themselves overnight - particularly with the majority of stallions who spend most of their time stabled, and who do not have 24/7 turnout on varied terrain with youngsters their own age to gallop, play & condition themselves with. To go from being (probably) being exercised on a walker, then this December just sat on, with ten or so 15-20 minute light schooling sessions of mainly walk/trot right into what sounds like at the minimum a good hour or two with hounds, catering & jumping - is to me highly unusual. I am not judging as such - everyone has their own way, and I like to learn as much as possible - there is no ’ one way’ but I don’t understand the rational or benefit of such actions.
As well as not being properly conditioned for anything more than 20-30 minutes light ridden work, any horse under saddle just a week or two will not fully understand the aids, and it just takes ONE idiot on another horse to potentially put your horse in a dangerous situation. How to turn away from a kicker for example, or Not follow someone that goes and jumps a a barbed wire fence if you have been crammed up behind them - but actually have no real brakes or steering? I have always felt much safer riding my newly backed horses alone than sharing the school or hacking out with others. Cantering in a group will cause many an excited baby to buck, whereas they don’t buck alone - though I often find newly backed babies very easy at their first few outtings - even the difficult ones - as they look to you 100% for guidance. It’s when they get more experienced & confident the problems can start - so I am not as terribly impressed with good behaviour first time out, than I am when a horse has a few shows under his belt!
It’s right that people should be proud of their horses. I would not want to take that from anyone and rain on their parade. Unlike Equibrit, I probably think this story was accurate - though possibly if he is an older stallion he may have been previously backed & turned away. I do think that the owners were VERY lucky at the outcome. Maybe they are very lucky people! This is what makes me sad- the more inexperienced people that read this sort of story thinking if this horse can, they can too - who end up with an injured horse or injured self!
This thread is so worth it just for the little kid on the weeee white pony in the middle of the pack trotting through town!
"He has been sat on less than a dozen times and hacked up the road and back twice, yet he stood like a rock at the covers and cantered across fields with the pack, on a soft contact. He even jumped a couple of rails,"https://www.facebook.com/buckskinoldenburgstallion/posts/
is part of the post about the horse.
Somehow within this thread, the claim has become altered and not at all what the original post is. People have somehow ( and I have to say I do not understand how) wildly inflated in their own posts claims as to what was said. Maybe people have reading and comprehension issues? Drama desires?
I don’t see anything untoward in the original post-- a green horse went out with the hunt, stood quietly, was able to canter in the open with the pack and went over a few low obstacles. The end.
Maybe people do not understand what a hunt ride is? It is very possible to ride on the hunt without jumping at all, if you choose. And if you want to jump you can pick and choose what it is.
Good for the horse in the post. It is really really hard to see how posters have so wildly misread the original post.
Has anyone seen this?
https://www.facebook.com/pg/buckskinoldenburgstallion/videos/?ref=page_internal
Nice video…
