Dressage stallions that give great dispositions :)

[Spike]

Didnt had 10 of them, but my Brentano II mare stands out in a crowd, in terms of good dispositions speaking… Like Clint said: “an old sould in a young body”… I could’nt describe her better than that. Her dam is a CW of dutch, hano and trakehner bloodlines. She is of a very good nature herself, well behavied, good work ethic, no vice, etc. But she has a LOT of presence and can be impressive in her ways (never in a misbehaved mannor, just because, she is 100% there). I think the mare gave her her good, positive and willing way of taking life and situations, and BII gave the calm, more mellow dispositions.

The same CW mare had a Sir Gregory colt in 2011, and he is walking in the hoovesteps of his big sister in terms of dispositions.

[Copilot]

I am more of a lurker here. But, I have to pipe in with Lingh.

My Lingh colt is a puppy dog. He is smart as a whip, and even when he does not understand what you would like of him he does not act up. He just waits for the “good boy” when he figures it out and that’s it. I couldn’t be more happy with his disposition. He’s only 5 months old, so he is learning a lot of new things, and I am just amazed with the lack of drama.

I have nothing but good things to say about Lingh as my mare is sensitive, and can be a bit of a drama queen.

[TrinitySporthorses]

From personal experience, Contucci and Ideal. Bugatti too, but he’s been mentioned repeatedly (and the dam of my Bugatti filly couldn’t be ANY quieter!).

[vxf111]

The Contucci’s I know were all born broke and real copies of the stallion. So I’d agree with that!

[goodhors]

Tantris, Oldenburg stallion. We have used him 3 times, with great results in the foals we got. They have matured into really excellent horses that like people, enjoy working with you, tolerant of real life situations.

They also come with EXCELLENT movement, extremely capable of going as far as you want and are willing to work for. They have good minds, willing to work hard for you. Just a nice minded group of horses to live and work with on a daily basis.

Tantris marks his colts for us, as a good stallion should. All very similar in type and minds. I would probably use him again if we had a mare to breed.

http://www.turningpointfarm.net/?page_id=8

[Tasker]

Not super popular stallions but here’s my list:
Again and Again
Adamant
Avebury WF
Dressage Royal
Waldaire

And that is from the ground and from undersaddle on multiple offspring out of different mares. Some of them are more ‘cuddly’ personality types than others but all of the stallions make willing to work, cooperative riding horses that are straightforward to bring up the levels.

[fargonefarm]

I have to vote for Soprano. I know sometimes the Sandros can be hit or miss on personality but I have had two by Soprano who are absolute dolls! My broodmare can be kind of difficult at times but both my Soprano kids are absolute lovers who don’t get worked up about ANYTHING. They would rather snuggle then argue with you and the filly is so nonchalant you could fire a cannon next to her and she would just kiss you :lol:

[YankeeLawyer]

I think people should distinguish between god foal temperaments and good temperaments / rideability under saddle. They are not necessarily the same thing. A sensitive foal may not be sensitive under saddle, and some that are very good on the ground have poor work ethics, for example.

[Perfect_Pony]

@YankeeLawyer;6005722

I think people should distinguish between god foal temperaments and good temperaments / rideability under saddle. They are not necessarily the same thing. A sensitive foal may not be sensitive under saddle, and some that are very good on the ground have poor work ethics, for example.

I also see a lot of “I have this one horse that is great”. I’ve known lots and lots of one-offs, it doesn’t mean the stallion consistently produces horses with good temperaments. And like has been brought up, the dam plays a huge part.

I am interested in those rare individuals who seem to always (or almost always) produce a horse with a good temperament. I am curious if Royal Prince really is one of those rare stallions, since I have watched video after video of his offspring and they all look like a joy to ride.

Don Principe seems to be another one. Maybe it’s actually Prince Thatch as the damsire?

[Marydell]

Since I am certainly biased, I will have to agree with both Don Principe and Royal Prince. Not only are the offspring great as young horses, they are proveing to be that way under saddle.
Yes, Prince Thatchxx is a very big part of the equation, but also the famous “D” and “R” lines on top are noted for character and work ethic.

[Cindy_s_Warmbloods]

All the Freestyle’s I have known/bred have been REALLY laid back.

[Forte]

I absolutely adore my Freestyle “baby” (now 6 years old) but she is definitely hotter and more sensitive than her dam who is absolutely bombproof even as a young horse. I don’t think that this sensitivity is a bad thing ( in fact it translates into brilliance under saddle and an excellent work ethic) but I wouldn’t put a nervous ammy on her.

[vxf111]

I have heard time and time again that Fabuleux adds a good temperment…

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-248665.html

And that it’s a trait of this line, not just Fabuleux himself.

I’ve also seen more than just my own Fabuleux(although I did not ride all of the ones I’ve seen) and they all seemed very very laid back and easy to deal with. I watched one perform this year at DAD doing the young horse tests with plenty of “fire,” and then stand, asleep, ringside afterwards. There was another one owned by a COTHer in PA who was also very very easy and quiet.

I’ll also add that Frankie’s dam was bred to a different horse each year, and although the other foals were nice and turned into a nice riding horses-- Frankie is the mellow one from the group and the one who has ended up as an ammy horse.

I knew a whole bunch of Contuccis (oppose situation- Frankie’s breeder had 2 mares and used different stallions each year, the other breeder had 6 mares and bred 3 each year to Contucci for many years in a row). Those Contuccis, each and every one of them, were born broke. They just had the saddle put on them and off they went down the trail. EVERY.ONE. Every time. And the dams were a mix of different temperments. Those horses were the easiest to handle babies I have ever seen, literally no fuss and no muss.

[Callaway]

I love Royal Prince and have bred to him several times, and have gotten 2 really sensitive fillies (one was out of a D line mare and the other out of an A line mare). Both could be a little difficult and reactive in certain situations. That said, my Royal Prince filly out of my Tantris mare is the easiest foal I have ever had.

[Perfect_Pony]

@Callaway;6006057

I love Royal Prince and have bred to him several times, and have gotten 2 really sensitive fillies (one was out of a D line mare and the other out of an A line mare). Both could be a little difficult and reactive in certain situations. That said, my Royal Prince filly out of my Tantris mare is the easiest foal I have ever had.

Is that Rheadora? What a gorgeous filly, with that same RP “look”.

Have any of yours been started?

[Callaway]

[QUOTE=Perfect Pony;6006144]
Is that Rheadora? What a gorgeous filly, with that same RP “look”.

Have any of yours been started?[/QUOTE]

Yes, the RP x Tantris filly is Rhea. She is an absolute doll!

One is in the process of being started. She is the one out of EM Academy Award (Rafaella). She is very bold, but is sensitive and can be difficult at times. I suspect she will be very brilliant in time, though.

[Perfect_Pony]

@vxf111;6006045

I have heard time and time again that Fabuleux adds a good temperment…

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-248665.html

And that it’s a trait of this line, not just Fabuleux himself.

And btw I will agree with this. I have known 4 personally, and have ridden 2. One 3 year old I had on trial, one 3 year old and one 5 year old were at a barn I was training at, so I have had a lot of experience with these at least. All had good temperaments, although the 3 year old did not vet, and none of them I would necessarily call upper level dressage prospects.

[vxf111]

[QUOTE=Perfect Pony;6006218]
And btw I will agree with this. I have known 4 personally, and have ridden 2. One 3 year old I had on trial, one 3 year old and one 5 year old were at a barn I was training at, so I have had a lot of experience with these at least. All had good temperaments, although the 3 year old did not vet, and none of them I would necessarily call upper level dressage prospects.[/QUOTE]

I don’t think Frankie is going to be an upper level dressage horse. He’s way too mellow (though he did illustrate an ability to do one tempis when he was hacking at Devon Horse Show as a 3 year old, embarassingly). The other one that was at Dressage at Devon, Foley, I would say probably is an upper level prospect. http://amandajohnsondressage.com/horses/ But it’s also relative-- Frankie is ridden mainly by sad-sack-ammy-adult-hunter me, and Foley’s owner/rider is a very talented pro I would suspect that a LOT of Fabuluex offspring are BEING BRED for amatuers, and so are naturally less likely (by design) to have the type of movement/spark that an upper level type needs. Of course, the dam also plays a large part.

I am surprised more people haven’t started using him for hunters. IMHO (and I am not a breeder, but it’s my anecdotal observation) that the best hunter combination to produce a hunter foal is a dam who has a great hunter jump, great and flat hunter trot, and quiet temperment bred to a dressage sire that has a great canter and quiet temperment. Fabuleux would suit nicely. It seems like quite a few of the popular “hunter stallions” themselves move great, but the offspring lack athleticism and jump. I can think of only a handful of hunter stallions whose offspring are in the same quality category as the stallion.

There is just NO REASON that Frankie should put up with my amateur behind the way he does. No reason. But he does. That’s priceless to me, and I’d give up some boing boing boing (even in the dressage ring) for a horse that’s so willing to be a partner.

[mbp]

Agree with what YL said - I have an Iroko mare that was not necessarily a quiet quiescent foal, but is a supre rideable, ez under saddle girl. Still, the two foals over the years that I have seen whose temperaments really impressed me were seen a good 5+ years apart, and were not by a sire I have bred to - they were both Gold Luck foals. fwiw

[swdressage]

Without question, Sir Sinclair. Have ridden many of them from different mares (including some with difficult temperaments). Every one has been rideable and uncomplicated.