Dressage trainers in Toronto area - recommendations please

Hi there,
New to this board and have seen some fellow Canadians on here.

SO I’m calling all of those near GTA to help me acclimatize to the area and find my new trainer/boarding situation.

Looking for recommend dressage trainers in the area north of Toronto (sadly not too Far East/West from either the 404/400 highways)

I’m not into showing but keeping options open in the future. So either type of trainer is fine.

I need a trainer good with younger horses and riders new to dressage. Has amazing care at facility and is equipped to focus on both horse and rider (not just one or the other)

Horse is a sweetie but a big silly warmblood. She’s 4 and has had solid training to this point but she’s 4 so just slowing going.

I’m moving her from Quebec City area in December but I just moved to the GTA two weeks ago so I’m on the hunt.

Any recommend trainers would be wonderful in the narrow area that I’ve described ??? looking to keep her within 40 minutes of the city.

Also, any sort of idea in terms of the rough monthly costs would be appreciated since I’m not really sure what to expect. Board+ Full or partial training. I’d like to be under $1000 a month but not sure if that’s feasible.

Please feel free to pm rates and /or places to avoid/trainers to avoid.

Also open to boarding barns in the area with option for free lance trainers. Big names are good but so are ‘not so big names’

Really just looking at various options and getting a lay of the land here in Toronto.

Many years ago I rode with Frank Grelo in that area. He had Lusitano’s. He is from Portugal, rode with Nuno Oliveira. It is classical Portuguese style—I found it to be a great feather in my cap, learned a lot to add to my European dressage background. I would travel there once a month stay for few days, so I do not know what it was like there daily basis. He had high schooled stallions available to ride—that were like no lesson horse you ever rode anywhere else. Really got to feel a lot. It was fun, he was fun, his daughters were, fun, most boarders were fun. The boarders had a really nice quadrille club among themselves and put on in house holiday shows.

Was it USDF competition dressage? No. Did it make my riding and dressage better? Yes! It was an opportunity to really feel “classical school”. What I gained there totally applied, made me better working with WB…OTTB…the neighbors auction horse.

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North of the city I would look at Meredith Risk / Nobleton Dressage and Leah Wilkins / Aislinn Dressage.

Jacqueline Brooks / Brookhaven Dressage is close to the 404 and can’t recommend her highly enough, however will be over budget and I suspect they close for the winter as Jacquie is based in Wellington during the winter months.

West of the city Debbie Dobson / Equestrian Dreams. Great care, super with young horses and your budget will go much further out there. Could be 40 minutes from the city depending where in Toronto you are. Google map 401 and Guelph Line if you want to check.

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I moved to Orangeville this time last year and came on COTH for a trainer recommendation as well.

On someone’s recommendation (sorry I can’t remember who now), I ended up connecting with Alison Banbury. She owns and runs Hill Haven Stables in Erin, ON. She’s made a huge difference in my riding and is amazing with all different types of riders and horses. And she doesn’t charge an arm and a leg for lessons compared to many in both the GTA or our area (PM me if you want details). There is a website, but as we are a busy barn, she doesn’t update it very often.

Good luck!

I would highly recommend Joanne Bouhuis. She is great with young horses and also working with horse and riders training together. She is near Oshawa - so a bit far east but would likely be within your budget.

Not sure if it will bust the budget but other options include Ashley Wright at Grandview, Jessica Costello who works out of Pine Ridge and the Irwin’s at Stoney Lake Equestrian. All can be found with a quick google search.

You could also try posting in the facebook group “Horse Stables in Ontario”. Not sure of the value of the recommendations but you will certainly find out about stables in the area.

I would also highly recommend Frank Grelo. Excellent care and instruction at his lovely farm!! I rode with him on and off for 16 years and still clinic when I can. He is in Caledon and you can find his contact info if you Google him. Call if you want to set something up…don’t email. Good luck!

Jen McCartney is north of TO in Newmarket neat the 404 (her place is Ovation Hall) and she is amazing–she also does clinics with people like Arthur Kottas which is awesome. She’s one of those coaches who will push you but also will be your biggest cheerleader. And she’ll work with anyone, including eventers/jumpers. Indoor board with with long turnout which is nice for the young ones.

I can’t rec Equestrian Dreams tho. Debbie is nice but the horses don’t get enough turnout and no one seems to move beyond first level. She also sells her students her own green horses for $$$ which I think is a conflict of interest (and again, they stay at walk/trot and training mostly). It’s a lot of people who are kind of scared about riding and need to build confidence, but also have lots of money and will pay $25k for a green horse with no show record.

I rode with Frank Grelo as well and would recommend him in a heartbeat.

Other trainers that I have took lessons from or scribed for that I would highly recommend :

Joanne Bouhuis
John MacPherson
Belinda Trussel
Jaimey & Tina Irwin

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I rode with Frank Grelo as well and would recommend him in a heartbeat.

Other trainers that I have took lessons from or scribed for that I would highly recommend :

Joanne Bouhuis
John MacPherson
Belinda Trussel
Jaimey & Tina Irwin[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately John is in the Collingwood area. Great to keep an eye out for clinics but too far from the OPs area for regular training

Jaimey and Tina Irwin are great! (My geography is crap, so I have no idea if they’re close enough to you.) I’d doubt that they would be at or under 1k per month–their place is seriously nice. But perhaps available for truck-in lessons?

Jaimey and Tina are at Stoney Lake Equestrian in Stouffville. Close to the 404 and definitely in the OPs preferred area but yes, that budget will be a challenge for full training board with BNTs like the Irwins.

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Unfortunately John is in the Collingwood area and Belinda is near Ottawa. Great to keep an eye out for clinics but too far from the OPs area for regular training[/QUOTE]

Isn’t Belinda Trussell’s farm, Oakcrest, in Stouffville?
But yes, it would be out of OP’s desired price range.

What about boarding at a nice facility without an in-house trainer, and bringing someone in? This way you can find a barn close to where you’ll be living. I live downtown east, near the Distillery District, and on good days it only took me 30 minutes to get to my old barn on Leslie and Stouffville sideroad.

Yeah I thought Belinda was in Stouffville too.

I like the idea of selecting a boarding facility that is in the vicinity of your choice and have a coach come in. Sometimes boarder already had a good coach coming in and you can join in too.

Jen is a very good and I would also recommend getting in touch with her.

Oops yes - that’s what I thought I typed about Belinda. How did my brain turn that into Ottawa?

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I can’t rec Equestrian Dreams tho. Debbie is nice but the horses don’t get enough turnout and no one seems to move beyond first level. She also sells her students her own green horses for $$$ which I think is a conflict of interest (and again, they stay at walk/trot and training mostly). It’s a lot of people who are kind of scared about riding and need to build confidence, but also have lots of money and will pay $25k for a green horse with no show record.[/QUOTE]

Think this person is someone who hasn’t boarded at Debbies or know about her business dealings. One horse is $25k and anyone can see why that horse is more. She’s won almost everything she’s been shown in.

I DO NOT have lots of money - that is downright insulting and neither does anyone else I know there. I am working three jobs to make ends meet and at least two others are doing the same so thanks for assuming we are all clients with lots of money that are scared of riding…that alone tells me you don’t know the barn that well.

If a student buys a horse from the barn they ride at isn’t that a good sign? I have ridden at places for shorter periods of time where I wouldn’t have dealt with that coach for a horse for any price.

None of the horses sold were her own greenies. She has three horses - one is green and she isn’t selling that one it is her future show horse.

My horse gets plenty of turnout and others that get less are on layup or receive less for other reasons. Again - find out more before you assume.

90% of dressage riders in Ontario are first level or below. Debbie trains correctly and that takes time. She drives us forward but as an adult amateur myself (a scared rider with lots of money apparently) my own desire to get it right and build a good foundation hasn’t pushed me to second level yet. We are schooling travers, shoulder-in and starting on changes but you probably won’t see us showing those next year until they are solid.

I can also recommend Meredith Risk if you are north of the city if you are west of the city then highly recommend Equestrian Dreams. PM me if you would like info from someone who boards there.

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Think this person is someone who hasn’t boarded at Debbies or know about her business dealings. One horse is $25k and anyone can see why that horse is more. She’s won almost everything she’s been shown in.

I DO NOT have lots of money - that is downright insulting and neither does anyone else I know there. I am working three jobs to make ends meet and at least two others are doing the same so thanks for assuming we are all clients with lots of money that are scared of riding…that alone tells me you don’t know the barn that well.

If a student buys a horse from the barn they ride at isn’t that a good sign? I have ridden at places for shorter periods of time where I wouldn’t have dealt with that coach for a horse for any price.

None of the horses sold were her own greenies. She has three horses - one is green and she isn’t selling that one it is her future show horse.

My horse gets plenty of turnout and others that get less are on layup or receive less for other reasons. Again - find out more before you assume.

90% of dressage riders in Ontario are first level or below. Debbie trains correctly and that takes time. She drives us forward but as an adult amateur myself (a scared rider with lots of money apparently) my own desire to get it right and build a good foundation hasn’t pushed me to second level yet. We are schooling travers, shoulder-in and starting on changes but you probably won’t see us showing those next year until they are solid.

I can also recommend Meredith Risk if you are north of the city if you are west of the city then highly recommend Equestrian Dreams. PM me if you would like info from someone who boards there.[/QUOTE]

It’s a bit of a sidetrack but I wanted to reply to this post because it’s important to look at a trainer’s clientele as well as just show results. If showing at the Gold level is important to the OP, then yes, I would suggest choosing a barn where most of the students are also doing that. However that’s not everyone’s goal.

I know several barns - and Equestrian Dreams is a good example - where the majority of the boarders are adult amateurs with jobs and families and few of them are able to ride more than 3 times a week. They train hard, take lessons and go in clinics but showing outside of schooling / Bronze isn’t in their budget or one of their goals. Doesn’t mean the quality of the training / instruction is any less. Just something to remember when the OP is out looking. Same goes for many talented trainers who don’t show themselves. I know great instructors with crappy / no show records and great riders with impressive records who are terrible instructors. Best plan is to always visit in person, observe a few lessons and speak with boarders. Any reputable barn will encourage you to do this.

A quick look at the Equestrian Dreams Facebook page shows recent in house clinics with Jeremy Steinberg and Jacqueline Brooks, which suggests to me there is some high level learning going on there.

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if you are west of the city then highly recommend Equestrian Dreams. PM me if you would like info from someone who boards there.[/QUOTE]

I rode there briefly but most of what I’m relaying is from people who are currently there, so yeah, it’s second hand but I don’t want to hold back what I have been told about the barn and its practices.

However, I would encourage the OP to do their own visit/assessment of any potential barns/coaches to see if it’s a good match. Looks like there are a few options in this thread! Stoney Lake is also great, btw, but not sure of the price range (probably over 1k/month). But north of TO there are also lots of boarding barns that will let you bring in your own coach.

Been at Equestrian Dreams for a while. Great place, super people amazing coaching. Can’t speak to anything else as I haven’t seen any of the things that iridescent is mentioning. Jeremy Steinburg clinic at the barn was super awesome.

Heard good things about Alison Banbury as well.