Dry food for cat with urinary issues

As a disclaimer, I know that an all wet food diet is best for cats with urinary issues. Based on the circumstances that I’ll describe below, the cat in question needs to eat 25-50% dry food and I’m trying to make the best choice for her.

I have two rescue cats. A small DSH male that I got as a kitten last year (just over a year old), and a 3 year old maine coone type female that I’ve had since she was 9 months old.

At some point over the past six-eight months, the female started to have urinary tract problems (bloody urine and peeing outside of the litterbox - it took us a bit of time to find where she’d been peeing in the unfinished basement). She was diagnosed with a UTI, put on antibiotics and a primarily wet urinary health diet (before then she ate Now grain free adult kibble). The antibiotics gave her awful diarrhea which was dealt with by adding probiotics to her food. She hated the urinary health wet food and lost a bunch of weight and got a gross greasy looking coat. Her symptoms returned almost immediately. We went back to the vet where the vet now said that she probably never had a UTI based on her age (apparently they almost exclusively affect older cats - she was diagnosed by another vet at the same practice). She was then diagnosed with stress related bladder inflammation. She had been stressed lately - a roommate moved into my old place with an aggressive male cat, and I got a dog. I have since moved so she now just lives with my male cat (who she gets along with well) and the dog. We have used a baby gate to section off a dog-free room for the cats to eat in which helps with her stress. Also she has mostly gotten used to the dog and will happily sleep on the floor next to him.

The vet said that once her symptoms improve (which they have to the best of my knowledge) we can move her to a diet of 70% dry 30% wet. I will probably keep feeding her at least 50% wet but would like to give her some dry food. Right now she eats about 75% high quality wet food (regular - not urinary health brands) and about 25% urinary health Royal Canin dry kibble. The problem is, she is super picky about wet food (will only eat about a tablespoon at a time, will not eat pate, will not eat anything with red meat, will not eat the same flavour twice in one day). She loves all dry food. The other cat has taken to the wet food and will eat hers after she’s abandoned it. He gained a lot of weight and is now on a diet (eating 50% wet and 50% of the royal canin). He has lost the weight but is hungry all the time.

I am having trouble feeding the urinary trouble cat a diet of wet food because she is so picky and because she will eat so little at a time that it means that I need to feed her 4x per day which is not sustainable on a full time work schedule. If I try to feed her in two feedings she will leave her food for the other cat to eat, who will balloon up while she loses weight. She is happy eating dry food and the other cat is less prone to gorging on it. However, I feel bad feeding the Royal Canin because the ingredients are so terrible (first ingredient is corn, second is wheat gluten, most of the ingredients are grains). All of the urinary health foods (Hills, Purina and Royal Canin are all that is available in my area) are similar. I have read that cats with urinary troubles should eat high protein low carb diets so it seems wrong to feed them a corn-based food. I will keep feeding her at least 50% wet food, but I need to be able to give her some dry food. Any suggestions on high-quality dry foods that are at least comparatively better for urinary issue prone cats?

go to www.catinfo.org and it will explain how to get your cat off of dry food. Dry food really isn’t good for any cat, let alone one with a history of urinary issues

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My cat has done well on this for over a decade. https://www.purinaone.com/cats/products/dry-cat-food/urinary-tract-health-formula#sort-by=highest-rated

Thanks, i have read that website. I have tried everything and while I can get her to eat the wet food (by feeding a rotation of wellness, tiki cat, weruva, blue, etc multiple times a day) I cannot get her to eat enough at a time to keep the weight on her (and off the other cat who eats it when she gives up). My vet has said she can eat some dry food and I need to make a change. I can’t keep leaving work to feed my cat. I can feed her 50% wet but that is the max I can do right now.

Instead of putting out the dry, which is liable to make her issues worse, why not try a timer feeder with the wet so she gets a little bit several times a day? You can order them from Amazon and if you freeze the wet food in an ice cube tray, it stays fresh. You could use the small ice trays for smaller bites of food. Most cats learn to use them easily.

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Thanks, I’ll look into that. My only concern is that the gluttonous cat will end up eating hers if I am not there to supervise :confused:

Buy some kitty cosequin and give cat a capsule, emptied into a little water and put in a kitten feeding bottle, in morning and at night each day. It helps with sand and crystals and stones in urinary tract.

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My cat loves his wet food, can I put the cosequin in his morning meal? If that works would he need a capsule morning and night? Thank you!

Ok I looked on the cosequin website and found my own answer. :slight_smile: Yes you can add it to food.

http://www.cosequin.com/cats/joint-and-bone/cosequin-for-cats-professional-line#collapseTwo

Sorry I logged off and did not answer your question. As you found out yourself, you can add it to cat food.
But if you use the kitty bottle and get it down your kitty via that route, you know that none was left over in the food.
It really does help with urinary problems in male and female cats.

Honestly, I’ve had remarkable results with this. I had a cat that sounds a lot like yours, and another without the stress, but chronic UTIs. I used to feed grain free food, wet food (which she hated), do everything “they” say to do. It didn’t work. Here’s what did:

I switched to the above food. For a long time I added water to the dry food, which said princess cat would lick up.

I started frequently bleaching all of my litter boxes, and made sure they were cleaned every single day. Those bacteria proliferate in there (trust me, I’m a microbiologist…)

We had really, really hard water. I started giving the little princess spring water, and cleaning the water dishes everyday with hot water and soap (again, the bacteria proliferates in there).

Honestly, I haven’t had a UTI in either cat in 5+ years. I will say, both of these cats do have food water drives, so they drink plenty on their own.

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We had issues off/on with my cat Kiki, diagnosed as a UTI, twitchy bladder… etc. It went on for years, with various Vets and diagnostics.
In the end it was Interstitial cystitis [iirc]… but too late by then to save him.
I would want an answer, a diagnosis, not just a alleviation of symptoms.

Yes for UTI and for overweight cats who might be prone to diabetes, if not all cats in general, a wet, low carb diet is preferable.

Re your UTI cat not finishing her food and the fatty cleaning it up:
My Lab doesn’t eat all her food and the Beagle tends to finish for her… and since Beagles are prone to balloon… I feed the Beagle less, let her finish what the Lab walks away from as the rest of her meal… voila! No one is getting too much/overeating!

Thanks! I’ll be checking the local pet stores for this tomorrow. If I can’t find it I’ll order on amazon. She is on some kind of holistic urinary supplement, but I have no idea if it is a waste of money or actually effective.

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I have a very similar issue (check out my old thread on it), with a very similar cat. I tried all types of food from Origin, Fromm, to Purina UTI and the cat still got UTIs that were not managed even by antibiotics. I took her to the vet multiple times and the vet finally said let’s look at the food. I think part of it was the food and part of it was the stress - she does not handle a busy house well.

I did not want to try Science Diet initially because I don’t love the ingredients, but it’s been over a year since her last UTI (knock on wood, I really hope I am not jinxing her). I get the Science Diet UTI/Hairball formula. Within a few weeks she became much less reclusive (UTI was making her painful, making her withdrawn) after about a month her coat bloomed, and she has done so well.

I also bought the Platinum Performance Cat supplement and she has been on that as well. I am very happy with it. I ordered it online. It was not that expensive - I think it was about $40 for 1,000 day supply (both my cats get it so it’s more like 500 servings).

BTW, I do mix the Science Diet with other grain-free options. I get a big bucket and dump about 60% Science Diet and then about 40% of another brand (Fromm, Wellness, Blue Buffalo, I mix it up every bag). I think this helps keep her balanced. The SD is IMHO very expensive considering a much higher quality food is the same price ($43) but I think it is cheaper than vet bills, so…

I wish wet food came in a less wasteful form. I do not feed it except on occasions. In the AM she gets 1/4c of mixed food and PM she gets 1/4c soaked with hot water and Platinum Performance supplement. BTW I also have a 2 cat household and the nonUTI cat loves the soaked food that the UTI cat has… so I lock the UTI-cat in the bathroom while I shower and feed her then - by the time I’m done she’s eaten the full 1/4c and I can let her out. It doesn’t take extra time out of my day because she has learned when I go to shower she gets fed. Easy way to solve that problem.

What about a dehydrated raw diet like Honest Kitchen or something? My cats love that stuff!

As of yesterday we suspect that Problem Cat is reacting to the grain in the urinary health food that she is eating. She has broken out in hot spots and dandruff and the only time that happened before when she was eating grains (also a urinary food - she’s been on grain free food since I’ve owned her other than that). We have switched her from that to Wellness Raw Air Dried - which has higher moisture content than the traditional dry food with 2/3 of her diet still being the wet.

Good point about sanitizing litter boxes - we do scoop every day but have not been sanitizing.

My cats do drink quite a bit of water.

We got them Wellness Air Dried raw last night after Problem Cat was diagnosed with an allergic reaction to the grain in her urinary food - seems to be a bit of a compromise between wet and dry food moisture-wise. PC likes it while Fat Cat doesn’t (but I know he will eat if he gets hungry enough…unlike PC).

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I think she is not tolerating the grains well as she has broken out in hot spots/skin issues both times she has been on UTI food (and never on grain free food) - first time was on science diet and second was on royal canin. Unfortunately we can’t lock her up to eat because she is a bit of a diva and finds being locked in a room too stressful to eat (never mind the fact that she will sit in the same room happily for 8+ hours as long as the door is open). As long as she starts eating the Fat Cat won’t disturb her (she is quite dominant).

Do you have any concerns about bacterial growth with the soaked food?

I also find the wet food wasteful but I am making my peace with it. It is difficult with this particular cat since she will only eat fish or poultry, only eat flaked food, and won’t eat the same flavour twice in one day. Over the past two days she has decided that she won’t eat tuna… thank god the Fat Cat will eat anything that comes out of a can.

I’m going to start the sanitizing the water containers everyday. I already bleach the food dishes after each meal. Plus I’ll use bottled water vs the tap. Tap water here is so hard it leaves a crust on the dishes.

I bought cosequin from Petco this morning and will put it on his food tonight. I’m not going to sanitize the litter boxes everyday. Simply not in my wheelhouse.

Research TikiCat canned foods. If your local pet store doesn’t carry it, it can be purchased online. Many of the flavors are made entirely of meat, vitamins and minerals. No grain, fruit or vegetables. Avoid fish-based foods - iodine is hell on a cat with kidney problems.

Seriously, I’ve got several very old cats that are doing fantastic on this food…one diabetic cat has been taken off insulin he’s doing so well.

Tiki cat is a great food.

Unfortunately when I tried Tiki cat, surprisingly my not very picky cat turned her nose up at some flavors.
I just wish it wasn’t so darn expensive.

I like to throw gizzards, hearts, livers and other gross parts into the cat and the dog’s dish. Seems cheaper and more effective for all.