at Delta Downs. There is a surprise everyday in this game.
Wonder what the late Tesio would make of this?
Nice to see a colorful Thoroughbred doing more than just making more colorful Thoroughbreds.
They make a big deal of her being a “dual registered paint.” But in all actuality, she is 100% thoroughbred. She is only a registerable as a paint by virtue of her dominant white crop out coloration, which is not all that uncommon. No major stakes winners in this country, but there have been dominant white runners and winners, as well as other variations on the pinto pattern such as overo/sabino runners and winners.
I have a spotty mare with belly spots, high white, and roaning. Having a stronger than average background in color genetics, I kicked around the idea of breeding her to a colored TB stallion this year to see what I may get. I just wasn’t crazy about any of my options available.
Where in the pedigree does the color come from?
http://www.pedigreequery.com/painting+the+sky
Her sire looks kind of like a wild bay.
I personally think she’s ugly as sin, but I absolutely hate bald faces.
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Where in the pedigree does the color come from?
V=http://www.pedigreequery.com/painting+the+sky
Her sire looks kind of like a wild bay.
I personally think she’s ugly as sin, but I absolutely hate bald faces.[/QUOTE]
Found this quote about her Viney
"A 2013 chestnut filly by Yankee Gentleman (1999 bay) x Lone Star Quest (2007 dkb/br). She is a result of a spontaneous mutation of the white spotting for dominant white (W). This"W-mutation is unknown-a new mutation."
Here’s a dated article on the subject.
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Where in the pedigree does the color come from?
http://www.pedigreequery.com/painting+the+sky
Her sire looks kind of like a wild bay.
I personally think she’s ugly as sin, but I absolutely hate bald faces.[/QUOTE]
She has…interesting … looks. Personally, I like any kind of an unusually-colored TH or SB. Even a quarter.
Texarkana is absolutely correct that this horse is 100% TB and therefore, is unable to be dual registered as a Paint. Beginning Jan 1 2005, APHA no longer allowed a horse with 2 TB parents to be registered. We had a cropout filly born in 2005 that we wanted to get dual registered but alas, a day late and dollar short.
Appendix horses may be registered with APHA provided one parent is registered AQHA or APHA.
This horse could be dual registered as a Pinto, as you do not have to prove lineage in that registry.
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Texarkana is absolutely correct that this horse is 100% TB and therefore, is unable to be dual registered as a Paint. Beginning Jan 1 2005, APHA no longer allowed a horse with 2 TB parents to be registered. We had a cropout filly born in 2005 that we wanted to get dual registered but alas, a day late and dollar short.
Appendix horses may be registered with APHA provided one parent is registered AQHA or APHA.
This horse could be dual registered as a Pinto, as you do not have to prove lineage in that registry.[/QUOTE]
APHA got rid of the one paint parent rule a few years back, so yes it is possible for this filly to be double registered.
Yeah, I think they’re back to accepting fully JC blooded horses who meet the color requirements.
But by breeding, she is not “paint” in any capacity. That’s what I meant when I said she was 100% thoroughbred.
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She has…interesting … looks. Personally, I like any kind of an unusually-colored TH or SB. Even a quarter.[/QUOTE]
She’s not pretty. But if she can run, then ignore her looks.
I’d almost be willing to bet the genes for the color (regardless of any possible mutation) came from her dam sire’s sire, Conquistador Cielo. He’s been known to pass on some interesting white markings, with Marquetry probably being his most well-known offspring being a prime example.
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I’d almost be willing to bet the genes for the color (regardless of any possible mutation) came from her dam sire’s sire, Conquistador Cielo. He’s been known to pass on some interesting white markings, with Marquetry probably being his most well-known offspring being a prime example.[/QUOTE]
I was just going to say this. I don’t think it’s Yankee Gentleman, he is as plain a bay as you can get and very little of his progeny have much white (he is broodmare sire of American Pharaoh and that look is very typical of his offspring).
I love unusual colors and she is very cool looking, but there is something quite cow like about that head…not the prettiest unusual colored TB I have seen!
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Yeah, I think they’re back to accepting fully JC blooded horses who meet the color requirements.
But by breeding, she is not “paint” in any capacity. That’s what I meant when I said she was 100% thoroughbred.[/QUOTE]
I had not heard they reinstated the TB cropout registry. I called APHA to confirm and indeed they do. I did throw the calltaker in the registration department off with this question!
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I was just going to say this. I don’t think it’s Yankee Gentleman, he is as plain a bay as you can get and very little of his progeny have much white (he is broodmare sire of American Pharaoh and that look is very typical of his offspring).
I love unusual colors and she is very cool looking, but there is something quite cow like about that head…not the prettiest unusual colored TB I have seen![/QUOTE]
You may be right, although I immediately thought of Washington Bridge, who had some flash. I would think that he certainly didn’t hurt this filly’s chances for color, being a Storm Cat.
Her sire Yankee Gentleman is the dam sire of American Pharoah. Seems like she might present some interesting possibilities for breeders.
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Her sire Yankee Gentleman is the dam sire of American Pharoah. Seems like she might present some interesting possibilities for breeders.[/QUOTE]
Maybe to breed to Pioneerof the Nile, not AP himself. It also depends on how well she ends up doing on the track. Not that her performance, or lack thereof, would mean much to whoever owns her when she retires, if they value her bloodlines highly enough.
I own a mare whose 3rd dam is the same as AP’s 5th, and has Tri Jet as her dam sire’s sire, but both she and the 3 colts she produced were relative duds on the track, and only someone who wanted to take a (very) wild gamble would breed her again for racing. Again, she would probably do better crossed to PofN instead of AP himself since my mare is bred so similarly to AP’s dam.
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Her sire Yankee Gentleman is the dam sire of American Pharoah. Seems like she might present some interesting possibilities for breeders.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure that understand. Clearly this is a genetic anomaly. The odds are exponential against this reoccurring. Sounds to me something like a effort made by a blind man wearing sunglasses after sunset to reduce glare.
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She’s not pretty. But if she can run, then ignore her looks.[/QUOTE]
She looks rather on the small side as well.
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She looks rather on the small side as well.[/QUOTE]
If it’s an actual mutation of her gene, why wouldn’t she be able to pass it on?
