If you breed Tibetan Terriers I’d love to purchase one as a pet. I do not need a show quality dog… and that is a breed I never see at rescues (I’ve only seen one) and there are few breeders I know of. However, if we are talking french bulldogs then there are a decent amount of breeders I know of. However, they are also a breed that you don’t hardly ever see at a shelter (I’ve never seen one). Knowing the breed would definitely be helpful. I can’t support a true backyard breeder, but would likely feel comfortable purchasing a pet from a non-show breeder who was responsible about their breeding (parents genetic tested, good temperament, etc).
Most reputable breeders are not interested in breeding their carefully produced stud dog to outside people interested in selling ‘priced as pets’ puppies that are directly competitive to the breeder’s production. Nor are they remotely interested in this association.
To me it would be money well spent to send the dog to a few shows with an experienced handler and THEN make a decision after getting that feedback.
So much potential expense and risk in breeding a dog… I would want to confirm that she was high enough quality to make the risk worthwhile.
So why the secrecy on what the breed is???
I know this topic has come up but I truly what you mean by in demand by everyone who meets your dog means.
Every time I take my two dogs to obedience or therapy stuff people rave about their cuteness and how they want one. It does not mean anyone really wants one, it is just a way to say they like my dog at that moment.
(I will note, both my dogs are rescue/shelter dogs of unknown breeding, both are neutered, there will not be anymore of them produced.)
And as a dog “purchaser”, if I am looking for a conformation quality pup, I am going to think twice about working with an unknown/new breeder.
I will start with people active in the breed and have them help point to me litters/breeders that I should work with.
Our dogs are all stellar representatives of their breeds, too, and I wouldn’t dream of breeding any one of them, I’m afraid.
There are around 6 million dogs and cats put to sleep in N America every year, according to recent stats. That’s a dog or cat dying every 13 seconds, by my calculation.
However, I’m rubbish at maths, so, even if that number is WAY out, so it’s only, say, 1 million dogs and cats killed every year, that’s a terrible number of animals that could be leading full and happy lives.
Please don’t add to the problem (particularly if you don’t have time to show your bitch: I can’t think that you’ll find time to handle a pregnant dog, handle the puppies so they’re healthy and happy and humanized, then market them to suitably knowledgeable, caring and responsible homes).
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I find it interesting and somewhat puzzling that she won’t name the breed. We have several people on here that are active in dog shows. If she told us what breed, someone on here might be able to help.[/QUOTE]
I think it might be a Vizsla?
Everytime somebody tells me how much they love my dog and want one I laugh. They really have no idea what went into making the Hellspawn into the dog they see in front of them.
My breed is popular for all the wrong reasons and they’re adorable as pups. But that’s also why the rescue group I work for is being flooded with adolescent and adult dogs who need homes, many of whom already have a bite history to their name.
This showed up on my FB after I read this thread & seemed timely:
Golden Rule:
When you look at a dog’s pedigree, it tells you what he OUGHT to be.
When you look at a dog in the ring, it tells you what he SEEMS to be
When you look at a dog’s progeny, it tells you what he IS (Pat Craig Trotter)
I’d be curious as to what this “rare” breed is.
Lots of very good advice has been given. OP I hope you take the time to really read it & consider the type of breeder you want to be know as.
Also, just to point out, if it’s a rare breed, it may be a bit easier to finish her than with a very popular breed with more competition. Assuming of course, that there is enough to get majors.
Originally posted by ElementFarm:
I feel that there are lots of good families looking for exactly my bitch,
What makes you feel this way? It is the result of your research into the number of good families looking? Facts are better than feelings when it comes to marketing puppies.
And if you don’t have the time to compete one dog, would you have time for the puppies you say you’d take back from buyers who changed their minds?
I’m surprised the breeder sold a dog without a spaying agreement.
I’m even more surprised that you’re being so secretive about the breed. Maybe you really don’t want to hear what other breed people could tell you?
Maybe the breed community is small, and the OP doesn’t want to the thread to poison her attempts to create contacts within that community before she creates a plan.
I seem to be the one dissenter here.
We have never gone out to buy a registered dog from championship parents … just got average dogs that arrived here either from a re-homing, or that we acquired. Every single dog from a long life of owning up too three dogs at a time have been good dogs and safe with our family and kids…
Looking at the for sale ads shows that there is a demand for home bred dogs from nice families.
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Looking at the for sale ads shows that there is a demand for home bred dogs from nice families.[/QUOTE]
Looking at for sale ads means there are home bred dogs looking for nice families, not that there is a demand for them.
If you use your theory, looking at for sale/adoption ads means there is also a huge demand for random mutts and we should start producing those left and right too.
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Maybe the breed community is small, and the OP doesn’t want to the thread to poison her attempts to create contacts within that community before she creates a plan.[/QUOTE]
yes, this was the case. I was trying to get a way ahead before making a bad impression on the local professionals I’d eventually be approaching.
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I have a lovely 2yo AKC bitch. She has CH lines but has not been shown due to our lack of time (we show horses, lol) and experience. We are interested in breeding her in the next year or so, but I’m a novice in the dog world (and apparently it works differently with horses) so I’m not sure how to go about matchmaking.
what is the protocol for finding a baby’s daddy? Do I just reach out to breeders in the region and ask if they stand to outside bitches?
In order to have access to high quality males, you’re going to need to put in the time to prove her worth by titling her in either performance or conformation
Does my girl go stay with them at their house for a week or two until they mate?
This depends upon the stud owner, I utilize shipped, fresh, chilled semen for most of my litters
How do I determine when my girl is “ready”? Does a vet ultrasound her to determine where she is in her cycle and we go from there?
Ovulation timing is done off of serial progesterone blood draws in the bitch. Very easy to spend $600 and up on this part
The intent would be to breed family-friendly, and competition quality if the new owners are interested in that, puppies in a breed that’s not very common, but is in demand by everyone who meets ours. I would require a stud that would result in AKC-eligible puppies.
Again, you want the nice stud, you need to do something with your girl
I am confident in our ability to raise puppies in a safe environment and provide all required medical attention during pregnancy and after whelping. We have a perfect environment (horse farm, large fenced yard, etc) and will screen prospective buyers. I just don’t understand how the logistics work.
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I think you may be seriously underestimating the time involved in this. The first three weeks with mom are pretty easy, after that, it’s a minimum of an extra hour a day. And a load of laundry. Just keeping the house warm enough one year cost me an extra $300 the first month. The low number of available puppies in your breed can either help you or hurt you. You may be able to place puppies easily or you may find that there really aren’t that many folks looking. This past month has been quiet, but there are times where I spend a couple of hours a week fielding puppy inquiries and screening home. As an unknown breeder, you may find finding appropriate homes to be very tough
I’m also wondering when it comes time for the rubber to meet the road, if/when you ask for a deposit for a possible pup in the upcoming litter, how many of these people that say they want one will put a deposit down to hold one???
While, for me, a Ch per se isn’t critical, having a pup with parents that have been health tested (CHIC if possible) as well as well socialized is very important. I also like to see parents that are both Ch and some title on the back end of their name to demonstrate they are more than just a pretty picture
The suspense is killing me 
