Dutch harness horse drama. Update major mare/ foal neglect Nov 2023 post 1782 Update Kate Shearer responds post 1930 Nov 25/23

I remember that story about her night out. There was a lot of back and forthing in her FB comments as to what really happened. And I am pretty sure one of the parties followed her over to COTH to comment.

But what stuck in my mind was that she said this particular restaurant was supposed to be one of her “safe ones” to go into? Who has a list like that?

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Haha no. Kate insulted a woman and the boyfriend dumped beer on Kate. Confirmed on horse show diva. When the arrest warrant for the boyfriend was posted, he was a young British man. I think she said he went back to England?

she posted about the brawl on FB and then I posted some details I’d read on Diva and inadvertently used a British inflected bit of slang that made Kate go paranoid and think I was the boyfriend and I must admit I did not jump on and doxx myself to prove I wasn’t (I didn’t know he was British at the time, I just have a few bits of British slang in my more ironic lexicon). She was going on about sending the whole COTH thread to the police. It was kind of hilarious and I am a connoisseur of COTH trainwrecks, I will not lie.

Later other people had some fairly normal chats with her about her breeding plans and techniques and not everyone was as dubious as me about harness lines for jumping. Noone knew of course that as of winter 2022/23 she had mares starving to death in the boonies and would “lose” two mares in spring 2023. About breeding, she presented as enthusiastic if a bit ignorant. And super defensive. Now we know why. The most defensive people are usually the ones doing very bad things in the background.

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I am not proud of this, but I was banned from a laundromat 35+ years ago. In my defense, the sign said “NO SADDLE PADS;” it said nothing about coolers, fly sheets and winter blankets. :innocent:

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If you haven’t been banned from a laundromat, are you even a horse person?? :thinking:

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I missed that development. How horrible.

Who owned the two mares? Did they actually starve to death?

Take it to an urban laundromat and pay for the extra rinse for the blankets AND to run an empty load so the next person doesn’t come home with “fluff” that is hard to explain to the average SO.

And do it in the middle of the night.

Then you might escape the ban hammer and the photo of shame in the manager’s office.

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Now I just have a top load with the center agitator removed and wait for my husband to go away for work… (and then do a cleaning rinse)

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Oh that’s funny. Reminds me of sneaking a load of bits and leather into my boyfrieds dishwasher when he wasn’t home.

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Yup. I used to to the same, but gave up. He now tolerates it. Lol

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What leather did you put in the dishwasher?

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I don’t know. On the other thread someone pasted in Kate’s FB rant from Spring 2023 about how her barn in Oklahoma hadn’t been feeding her horses, how she needed to get the mares fattened up for the 2023 breedings, and how she was “blessed” to only lose two mares. Then she moved them to Florida and the same thing happened again but “not her fault.” I don’t know if the mares actually starved to death or if they just suffered from complications of being malnourished in pregnancy and lactation. Kate is big on shifting blame not so good on details.

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I’m just so happy that her behavior is finally getting a shining spotlight. In all areas of her life she’s a soulless grifter and this is karma at its best.

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On the hj thread someone posted screen shots from the Ocala FB group where a person was detailing all the drama they went through with her, pretty sure it was the OK barn since one of her issues among many was that the horses shipped in from AZ and didn’t have blankets (that and the lack of grain caused weight loss).

She also detailed the loss of two mares from medical conditions unrelated to nutrition…

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Yikes. Thanks.

Well every medical condition in horses is made worse by poor nutrition.

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Yeah, not really. I’m quite sure large bone fractures do not care about caloric intake (not relevant to her horses but an obvious example disputing the premise). In her case, a ruptured diaphragm is acute and fatal, there’s nothing a good sammich will do to prevent it or change the outcome. As for the horse with some sort of infection, yeah adequate calories would be nice, but actual treatment would be closer to life saving.

This idiot is a white hot mess and she really shouldn’t own a horse since she is clearly incapable or unwilling to provide even minimal levels of care. BUT horses can and do die through not fault of the owner, no matter how awful said owner is. We really ought to be able to hold both these ideas in our heads at once even if it doesn’t work with the desired narrative.

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Right, I don’t necessarily hold the Oklahoma people blameless given the condition her horses came out in. They had care and custody whether they liked it or not and continuing to let them starve because she was MIA makes both parties culpable. At a certain number of horses it’s irresponsible to be boarding them. If your only way to handle things when shit hits the fan is trying to find someone with availability for 15 horses, that’s not really an acceptable plan to me. Sometimes birds of a feather flock together and all of them are trash.

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“Good nutrition” isn’t all about calories though.

There are certain vitamin and minerals that do actual impact bone and/or soft tissue development. It’s not just about “more sammiches” when it comes to malnutrition.

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I hope you realize that I am quite aware of what good nutrition encompasses, just as I am certain that you understand that horses can and do die regardless of nutritional deficiency.

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Alright then.

Your post focused pretty much solely on caloric intake. I don’t know you from a hole in the wall, so I don’t know what you do and don’t know (or are aware of) :wink: I also didn’t say that you do or don’t know, I just wanted to add that it’s about more than just calories for the sake of the thread/discussion.

I would hope that everyone knows that horses can die regardless of a nutritional deficiency. Horses can and will die from literally anything.

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