I think this is the same place that a student of mine bought a horse from a couple years back. She bought the horse (2 years old at the time) based on photos and maybe a short video. When the horse was delivered to her it was near death from starvation. (no exaggerating)
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You say she is such a horrible person. At least shes supplying a home for all the horses. I am a regular voluntary, and they treat the horses with respect. There may be alot of horses, but they can keep a good home, until they find there everlasting home with another family. Its a rescue horse farmā¦ the horses are going to be skinny. They are not going to be little beautys, but at least she trys.[/QUOTE]
Hang on a moment while I refrain from really ripping into you. I so hate feeding a troll but alas this frame of mind contributes to the problems. Rescue means to help not harm.
http://www.bluebonnetequine.org/
fabulous rescue, note the PROGRESS not DECLINE of these horses.
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You say she is such a horrible person. At least shes supplying a home for all the horses. I am a regular voluntary, and they treat the horses with respect. There may be alot of horses, but they can keep a good home, until they find there everlasting home with another family. Its a rescue horse farmā¦ the horses are going to be skinny. They are not going to be little beautys, but at least she trys.[/QUOTE]
Please check your spelling and sentence structure, so you can appear more credible.
In 2011 Eagle Hill adopted 80 horses into wonderful, everlasting homes. All were selected by their new owners after visiting our farm and we receive updated photos every 3 months with notes about their success. Each horse left with current shots, coggins, and with health certificates for those leaving the state or if requested by their new boarding facility. All left in great health and condition. Horses have not been shipped anywhere, without having been previously seen by their new owners, or in one case, by the owners relatives. We have copies of the Transfer of Owership for each horse adopted. We are proud of our success in providing excellent care to the horses awaiting their new homes. During 2011 only 4 horses were added to our herd. Three had formally been adopted here and due to the economy their owners could no longer properly care for them. Two of those have already been re-adopted. One was abandoned here on our property, very underweight. We contacted Animal Control offces in our area but the owner was never found. She is doing well, and should be adoptable in a matter of a month. Please feel free to visit anytime, no appointments are ever needed, and see for yourself. Eighty new owners - some repeat adopters, canāt all be wrong about their delight in finding the right horse at Eagle Hill Equine Rescue.
This thread was started in Sept 2010 and this person is still in business/rescue? And why in the heck would some one on āherā side revive it? Very strange. Hoping perhaps this place has improved?
Sadly yes, she is still in business. I have been talking with people involved in getting the horses removed since 2010, but law enforcement does not want to take on a seizure of this size. The pictures I have seen of starved to death horses is horrible. The accounts of mass graves near the river is insane. Dead foals in tractor buckets, gaping wounds on skinny horses covered in mud. I do not understand why nothing is being done to help these horses. I also was shown her ridiculous and outrageous adoption fees. It is not really adoption at those prices. I was told that she has another field to āhideā the thinnest of horses when she gets word of animal control coming to make a visit. Isnāt AC supposed to come unannounced?
I just canāt believe she is still allowed to operate.
Thanks Hilltop I just did a little reading on the internet about this place. I canāt believe it has gone on for years and years! Very sad.
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You say she is such a horrible person. At least shes supplying a home for all the horses. I am a regular voluntary, and they treat the horses with respect. There may be alot of horses, but they can keep a good home, until they find there everlasting home with another family. Its a rescue horse farmā¦ the horses are going to be skinny. They are not going to be little beautys, but at least she trys.[/QUOTE]
COINSLOT: Are you really stating that rescue facilities only keep their horses skinny until they are found homes!!! If this is what Ann is promoting to her volunteers at Eagle Hill Equine Rescue it is with great efforts that I inform you that is NOT how real rescues are run. The care at rescues is usually the most important thing these people stand for and are proud of their facility and what their horses look like now and after coming to the farm emaciated, āthe horse is FAT and happyā. There should NEVER be ANY complaints EVER filed at the local animal control that the animals are not being cared for at the facility by local drive bys and they should be checked. So please donāt you ever think that just because it is a ārescueā that the animals should be thin, because that is not true. Do not preach that statement either. If horses are thin, they are usually not getting enough to eat. And that stands to be the truth for EHER as well.
And also donāt think because a horse is old it is going to be thin. Age is not a reason a horse is thin. It has other underlying health conditions that make it thin and they can usually be attending to by the owner and their vet. Whether it is a dental problem or some blood tests need to be run to find the cause.
I read this thread with mixed feelings. I am totally against the mistreatment of horses (or any animals) and think that anyone who lets an animal suffer is an abuser (or worse). On the other hand I can say that I adopted a 10 month of perch/tb cross when she was 10 months old from Eagle Hill. She is going to be 5 in April. I guess part of me wonders what would have happened to her if they didnāt rescue her (she was a wet nurse mare foal). Where would she have ended up?..I donāt think there are many positive alternatives.
When we were there she was with a group of maybe 40 other foals/yearlings. Yes, she was thin and needed TLC but she has turned into an incredible animal who I receive compliments on everywhere I go. I love her dearly and am grateful for Eagle Hill having saved her from a worse fate so I guess that is where my feelings get mixed. Now, when we were there, I didnāt see any underweight horses. I like my horses on the fat side and hate to see them thin so I do think it would have stuck out to me. We spent the whole day there. I did wonder how anyone could have handled that many. I think there were close to 180 head when we visited. I canāt say whatās happened in the last 4 years but this is just what I experienced. I certainly hope this isnāt true.
Shohanna: I have a 2005 nurse mare foal from this place. He was emaciated, full of parasites (as most of the others), pneumonia, full of lice and anemic. He was very very sick and the only reason I adopted him was get him out of that situation and save his life. When I was at this facility I tried telling Ann that he was sick but she did not want to listen. There were many other skinny horses at this facility back in October of 2005. This has been a problem with this facility for many years. I will say that the number of horses has gone down but there is still not have enough shelter for all the horses on the property. I have not had time to drive to this facility so I do not know what condition the horses are in at the present time. I do know that many of them have been there for several years. I also know that a humane investigator goes there as well every so many months to check on the horses.
I do often wonder what would have happened to my foal if I hadnāt adopted him. He has grown into a beautiful draft cross. But he does have health issues. And I know of others that were adopted that have or had health issues.
All I am going to say is that the fat horses that you saw back then were the ones that had the strongest will to fight for their food.
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Shohanna: I have a 2005 nurse mare foal from this place. He was emaciated, full of parasites (as most of the others), pneumonia, full of lice and anemic. He was very very sick and the only reason I adopted him was get him out of that situation and save his life. When I was at this facility I tried telling Ann that he was sick but she did not want to listen. There were many other skinny horses at this facility back in October of 2005. This has been a problem with this facility for many years. I will say that the number of horses has gone down but there is still not have enough shelter for all the horses on the property. I have not had time to drive to this facility so I do not know what condition the horses are in at the present time. I do know that many of them have been there for several years. I also know that a humane investigator goes there as well every so many months to check on the horses.
I do often wonder what would have happened to my foal if I hadnāt adopted him. He has grown into a beautiful draft cross. But he does have health issues. And I know of others that were adopted that have or had health issues.
All I am going to say is that the fat horses that you saw back then were the ones that had the strongest will to fight for their food.[/QUOTE]
Wow, I am glad you did get him too. My girl has no health issues (other than she gains weight on air) but she was thin (we got her in February so she had a really long coat which I think was part of being too thin but at the same time, hid the true story underneath). I have pictures of her if anyone would like to see, both of when we picked her up from the farm and now. I guess we were the lucky ones. She really picked me that day anyway :winkgrin:. I also put her thru a vigorous worming program when we got her home. I would say it took a few months but she really started to blossom. She will be five in April and like I said before, is such a great girl. Whatever happens, I just hope the horses are taken care of. I hate to think of them suffering.
So Annie Delp, I guess youāre the owner of this rescue?
Are you saying that the reports of ill foals/horses, skinny horses (not new rescues but ones youāve had a while), euthanizing horses inhumanely, dead horses etc. are all unfounded? Can you say that all of the accusations are unfounded truly?
If we all came to visit tomorrow could you produce paperwork that would show that any ill & skinny horses were JUST rescued or would we find that they have been with you long enough that they should be in good health?
Just wondering if we all showed up what we would really find.
Rescues are meant to IMPROVE the animals life, not just move their suffering to another location & prolong it.
I read this
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/eagle-hill-equine-rescue-fredericksburg-virginia-c204231.html
and DAMN, just DAMN!
Lady youāre just not right!
Time for a letter writing campaign. If someone can get me the address of the state vet and AC for that area (email addresses and phone numbers too, but in my experience, written letters and phone calls make the biggest impression), Iāll be glad to start. And Iāll be glad to post on my facebook pageā¦lots of very proactive rescue friends.
If JSwan and EquineElders say there is a problemā¦thereās a problem!
JSwan, if you can verify this somehow, I have several friends who are investigative reportersā¦just let me know.
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In 2011 Eagle Hill adopted 80 horses into wonderful, everlasting homes. All were selected by their new owners after visiting our farm and we receive updated photos every 3 months with notes about their success. Each horse left with current shots, coggins, and with health certificates for those leaving the state or if requested by their new boarding facility. All left in great health and condition. Horses have not been shipped anywhere, without having been previously seen by their new owners, or in one case, by the owners relatives. We have copies of the Transfer of Owership for each horse adopted. We are proud of our success in providing excellent care to the horses awaiting their new homes. During 2011 only 4 horses were added to our herd. Three had formally been adopted here and due to the economy their owners could no longer properly care for them. Two of those
have already been re-adopted. One was abandoned here on our property, very underweight. We contacted Animal Control offces in our area but the owner was never found. She is doing well, and should be adoptable in a matter of a month. Please feel free to visit anytime, no appointments are ever needed, and see for yourself. Eighty new owners - some repeat
adopters, canāt all be wrong about their delight in finding the right horse at Eagle Hill Equine Rescue.[/QUOTE]
Just wanted to quote this post in case someone tries to delete it.
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Time for a letter writing campaign. If someone can get me the address of the state vet and AC for that area (email addresses and phone numbers too, but in my experience, written letters and phone calls make the biggest impression), Iāll be glad to start. And Iāll be glad to post on my facebook pageā¦lots of very proactive rescue friends.[/QUOTE]
LAURAKY - The state vet has been out to this facility on December 7, 2005. This is when things were way worse then they are now. The state vet that went to the farm was Dr Robert Ruth of the Virginia Dept of Agriculture. The telephone number is (540) 434-3897. The licensed humane investigator that is currently making unannounced visits to the farm is Hilleary Bogley and she can be reached at (540) 364-3272. The Culpeper Animal Control Office number is (540) 547-4477. Please keep in mind all of these avenues have been taken. In my opinion an officer of the court must see an animal on deathās door or deceased before action will be taken.
I adopted a horse- you know him well. His name is Luna. He had an abscessed tooth over 5 years at your farm. Several folks at your farm say that you knew about it. The vet recommended xrays and you never did it. I have spoken with Ray Hyde at American Dental Equine. He has offered to come out to take care of the horses yet you have not done it? My question to you is Why not? You can post puppy pictures on your Facebook page asking for money, but people offer their professional services to you at not cost to you and you decline? I am curious what your reasons are? I am not a rescue, but I was able to find an agency to help me pay for Lunaās medical expenses in a week on the internet. Surely a facility as well known as yours can do better than that. I wonder if you would fare as well as he did with chronic jaw pain that lasted over a period of years as you fought eight or nine horses constantly for food?
You may have begun this saga with good intentions, but no animal deserves to suffer so any human can be a martyr.
I have vet records for the horse that I adopted in November 2012 for this placeā¦FYIā¦he needed surgery for abscessed tooth so bad that infection ate thru his jawboneā¦be glad to share themā¦
Sad to say but itās now 2016 and that place is still doing the same thing. I sure hope people do their research on this place and the people before giving them any more horses. I sure wish I did. Animal control is looking into them because they are still neglecting and abusing horses after all these years. I spent $100s of dollars on feed a month plus really good hay to keep weight on my 2 old men. I needed to find a rescue for my boys due to moving 400 miles away and didnāt want them to end up anywhere bad. Boy did I screw up letting those people come take my guys. As we where moving the rest of our belongs from our home in va (a month and a half later) animal control showed up to ask us about the 2 horses. Luckily we had all our vet records and the animal control officer knew us and our horses and knew they were in good condition before leaving our care. This so called rescue was being investigated due to the condition of their horses and tried to say they just got those 2 horses in bad shape. Which they had for a month and ahalf. Now animal control has pics of both of my old guys plus vet records and vet statements that they were both in good condition and healthy before those people came and got them. I so wish I would have done better research on that place. Hopefully they will do something after all these years.
