EHV at Thermal?

Check out the updated USEF guidelines for return to show. My interpretation is that they will negative tests to go to a USEF show in Ca in March

Edited for typo

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There were posts on their social media asking if there was a positive test and for more information over the weekend. Those comments are either no longer there (I assumed deleted) or taken down. The Classic Horse Show Facebook group was taken down over the weekend

Not required apparently, but “encouraged”.

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Blenheim’s requirements are stricter than USEF’s. Based on this, horses at a facility with cases will have to test. There isn’t the 28-day option offered by USEF.
https://4k9tr.r.a.d.sendibm1.com/mk/mr/STp0BVThTh5UVK_pAgmodSJsnJPrlkZxlBW86xFPVwLC10sitJXIGJaoIE4C_IUjXyUX2-Y6kXu3INTVnMgV5N6J1NHe_nPA9f8ne5l7SzvaJTaPKtrtQcn1RNEXQmuvIdTP0mU4

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That’s good to know. I hope others will follow suit.

Blenheim is on it!

The worst is the ones that buy the vaccines from the vet for the receipt, and don’t give them
 into the trash they go!

Are you talking about trainers ? Why do they throw the vax away ? And why isn’t the vet vaccinating the horses ?

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Who knows why they throw them away, but it’s pretty common for trainers to give their own vaccines. They are cheaper when you buy in bulk, and of course then you’re not paying the vet to give them. I give vaccines to my personal horse, but not client horses.

If Archie Cox broke the rules and put so many horses at risk he should be suspended. No matter how well liked he may be he is not above reproach. What a TURD

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Ok, but what about people who were only there week 1, when Lulavani was also there? I’m getting updates from DIHP and I wasn’t even there this year. I went to a day show in January where a haul-in came down with symptoms and a positive test later that week (the one that started the previous nor cal outbreak), and I was promptly informed by show management. This is ridiculous.

Also, for anyone wondering why so many owners don’t know better, I’d say having a “trainers only” meeting to disclose this information is seriously fueling the powerful trainer/helpless owner dynamic.

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If the meeting about the EHV case was actually open to only trainers and not to the owners who are the ones spending thousands of dollars for their 6-figure horses to be there, that really rubs me the wrong way. If an owner chooses to just let the trainer go as their representative that’s fine, but the owners shouldn’t be stuck with third hand information from someone with a vested interest in staying there and continuing to show like business as usual.

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Hello YES!!!
In all things relating to my horse it is my name on the check. I nipped it in the bud with my trainer when I told her that she was not the communication filter from the vet, I also told the vet that I was the point of contact for communication.

The show management perpetuates the culture of trainer as overlord because they know the money pump hinges there

I would like to know if owner / riders were turned away from the meeting. There is nothing worse for conveying facts than second or third hand information. In these days of instant communication ability there is no reason that everyone could not be informed or advised.

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Has there been any talk of limiting braiding, etc., at upcoming shows? Unless a barn has their own braider, that’s another person going from tent to tent, spending lots of time near each horse’s respiratory secretions, and who many people wouldn’t even think about when it comes to the typical idea of professionals travelling from barn to barn potentially spreading disease (like vets and farriers).

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To be totally clear, I don’t know if the meeting was only open to trainers because I wasn’t there that week, and I realize my language implied otherwise. I WAS there week 1, listed as trainer/owner/rider for my one horse, and have heard nothing from show management.

https://thehorse.com/1109251/wisconsin-horse-confirmed-with-equine-influenza-and-ehv-4/#:~:text=Wisconsin%20Department%20of%20Agriculture%2C%20Trade,within%20the%20last%20two%20weeks.

That was actually reported February 26. But yeah, still not good.

I was there. It was an open air meeting and no-one was turned away. I am not a trainer – I just happened to be walking by (I had already heard about the positive mare) and I noticed that Tim, Dr. Runk, and the show steward were all getting ready to address the crowd which was primarily trainers. I was not the only non-trainer to listen in on the meeting.

That said, I am appalled and disappointed that there has been no further communication from show management about the situation. I keep going back and forth from showgroundslive to horseshowtime to cross check who was at which show and then who was in what class and was my horse in proximity at the ingate with any of the Thermal horses. It’s a contact tracing nightmare. I had met up with my trainer at the show, so my horse couldn’t come home with me and is doing a 21-day quarantine at her barn.

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From the report on the Valencia incident in Europe last year.

"Transmission of EHV-1
EHV-1 spreads relatively slowly within a population, but can be more rapid if many horses are
coughing or snorting, spreading aerosols with virus up to five metres. Indirect spread can also
occur by shared equipment such as tack, feed bowls and buckets and by people via their hands
and clothing. Also dogs, particularly if they are loose, can spread virus indirectly.

*****Emphasis is mine. Loose dogs at show grounds as a means of spread is an interesting finding. One more reason why dogs should not be allowed off leash at horse shows no matter how well behaved.

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I wish this was required reading for trainers, grooms, riders, and owners. Really anyone in the barn. People don’t realize how easy it is to spread.

I brought home a coronavirus (pre COVID) to my horse, on my boots, from a barn I was working at 45 minutes away. And I was a vet tech and I know how important biosecurity is!

I’m glad it seems like USEF is locking things down, as are horse parks and boarding/training facilities in NorCal. Hopefully people will actually stay home and things will settle down. :crossed_fingers:

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