EHV at Thermal?

[Horsegirl_s_Mom]

Northern Winter Classic series at Rancho Murieta, near Sacramento.

[GallopGirl]

From my friend who is there: a trainer came home from Thermal. She did the 7 day quarantine, then went to MEC. When they changed the quarantine recommendations to longer, they tested her horses as a precaution and one came up positive.

[Horsegirl_s_Mom]

This was released yesterday at Murieta: “no EHV cases on the grounds.”

2.25.22-EHV-1-Release.pdf

[Hoofbeat_Heartbeat]

They didn’t get the positive test result until last night at NWC. Here now and it’s a ghost town.

[Midge]

@Angela_Freda

I’m sharing this account of what my horse went through for those who may be reading who think this is no big deal. I hope no one else, and no other horses suffer like this :

Utterly horrific and I am so sorry you had to go through this. But thank you for sharing.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sticky_Situation

I’d be really pissed if a barn I boarded at allowed an exposed horse to come home prior to completing the quarantine, even if that situation is technically “not as bad” as that same horse going to a show with other horses from all over.

However, if the exposed horse’s owner had their own private barn the horse could quarantine at and not risk further exposure from staying at the horse park, I wouldn’t blame them for wanting to take their horse home.

I have a high school friend who has a horse in So Cal in a large barn (about sixty horses). One horse did go to Thermal, and they just slapped the horse back in his normal stall. Apparently the barn is full, so there was no costless way to isolate.

I agree that someone taking their horse back to a small private barn, with their horses only, is different. But that’s a rare circumstance, I think.

Describing her reaction as “pissed” does not begin to cover it. But what can someone in that situation do?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@GallopGirl

From my friend who is there: a trainer came home from Thermal. She did the 7 day quarantine, then went to MEC. When they changed the quarantine recommendations to longer, they tested her horses as a precaution and one came up positive.

Maybe that’s why the isolation period is now 14 days. Why would the isolation period ever have been 7 days? Most cases crop up within 8 days, but it was always known that the incubation period could be as long as 14 days.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Bunker

I think that means no neuro symptoms but maybe a fever? That’s how I read it anyway….

No. Fever is a symptom of EHV 1 infection. A fever only infected horse can infect a horse that develops EHM.

[BellaFortuna]

With the rate that it is spreading, it seems like it would be prudent for USEF and management companies to cancel shows in CA for the next 30 days. At the same, my concern would then be that point chasers would simply head east and then it would spread out of state. Seriously hoping that cases do not spread as people leave the show grounds.

[BellaFortuna]

It’s so hard. Ideally they would get portables and isolate the horse on the property, but usually big SoCal barns are limited in space that even that would be difficult. Even then, they should have handled it differently for the safety of all the other horses.

[Jealoushe]

I wonder if this will effect california events?

[Horsegirl_s_Mom]

@Hoofbeat_Heartbeat

They didn’t get the positive test result until last night at NWC. Here now and it’s a ghost town.

Ugh. Now I’m sad and worried.

And yes @CurrentlyHorseless, definitely has that same feeling as Covid of always being a step behind the virus.

[GallopGirl]

@Jealoushe

I wonder if this will effect california events?

I truly hope it does. I think everyone needs to stay home. As we saw with DHP and LAEC and now in NorCal, horses are traveling all over, and the virus is spreading.

If you look at the info from CDFA, not all of the horses that have died from this were horses who were at the show or went to the show. Some were horses that got it at home from horses coming back from the show. IMO, this will continue to spread until everyone takes this seriously - stays home, monitors their horses, properly quarantines, etc. As contagious as this is, a fail safe quarantine at home is almost impossible. That’s why it’s so important to just stop showing, stop traveling until this has run its course.

[GallopGirl]

So now I’m hearing the NorCal trainer posted some stupid stuff on FB (in a now deleted post) and showed up at MEC only 3 days after leaving Thermal. That is what could have possibly flagged the testing of all the horses, which is how they found the asymptomatic positive.

[Horsegirl_s_Mom]

@GallopGirl

So now I’m hearing the NorCal trainer posted some stupid stuff on FB (in a now deleted post) and showed up at MEC only 3 days after leaving Thermal

Is it time to “out” the irresponsible trainer?

[eclipse]

Spruce Meadows are having their first indoor show in March (first one in 2 years) and no horses that have been at a show with EHV in the previous 2 weeks to attending will be allowed to enter…so no horses from Thermal will be allowed in….phew! Plus, besides this, we have to provide vaccine records and take temps twice per day. This is there bio security form that was sent with their entry

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[Horsegirl_s_Mom]

@eclipse

no horses that have been at a show with EHV in the previous 2 weeks to attending will be allowed to enter…

Sorry, but this seems like a very “porous” restriction. Suppose Frisky’s home barn has 5 horses who just came back from Thermal. Frisky didn’t go to Thermal, but now he heads off to Spruce Meadows. Not good, right?

[eclipse]

I’ve attached the form but no they won’t be allowed on the premises as per the wording

“Horses are not permitted to come on to the grounds if they are stabled at a facility where any horses have been at a venue with a confirmed case of EHV (neurologic or non-neurologic) or any other transmissible disease/ illness within the last 10 days.“

[Horsegirl_s_Mom]

@eclipse

’ve attached the form but no they won’t be allowed on the premises

Ah, I see. That’s good. There were a lot of pages to your attachment and I didn’t see that wording.

[MHM]

@eclipse

I’ve attached the form but no they won’t be allowed on the premises as per the wording

“Horses are not permitted to come on to the grounds if they are stabled at a facility where any horses have been at a venue with a confirmed case of EHV (neurologic or non-neurologic) or any other transmissible disease/ illness within the last 10 days.“

That sounds like a good idea, but I wonder about the enforcement of it.