Why are you posting that crap in this forum? It is obviously written by a PETA-freak or a moron, or some combination of both.
If you’re going to post something, then post something that’s half rational and midly accurate and doesn’t make stupid unsubstantiated assumptions.
Someone doesn’t seem to know the difference between NORTHERN Dancer and NATIVE Dancer.
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I read this on another blog, about the inbreeding problem… and how it might have created this problem for Eight Belles.
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My filly was a Native dancer bred as well. She was euthanized for a catastrophic break too. For what ever that is worth!
Given that the overwhelming majority of TBs in the US are descended from Native Dancer, then I suppose they are all catastrophic injuries waiting to happen by your guy’s logic.
Here’s a little exercise for you, go here http://drf.com/entries/eindex.html
and pick any 3 races at random from any 3 tracks in the US and look up pedigrees on the horses in those races. Come back and tell me how many you find, if any, that have no Native Dancer.
Get a clue people.
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Why are you posting that crap in this forum? It is obviously written by a PETA-freak or a moron, or some combination of both.
If you’re going to post something, then post something that’s half rational and midly accurate and doesn’t make stupid unsubstantiated assumptions.[/QUOTE]
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Get a clue people.[/QUOTE]
I’m sure you don’t talk to people like this in person. It is okay for people to ask questions and share experiences in this forum, and MSP and La Gringa were not being rude or disrespectful. Take a deep breath. You only hurt your cause by responding with such unwarranted venom.
Racing Authority Responds to Animal Rights Groups’ Objections
Thought it would be interesting to see the Racing Authority’s answer to PETA.
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Given that the overwhelming majority of TBs in the US are descended from Native Dancer, then I suppose they are all catastrophic injuries waiting to happen by your guy’s logic.
Here’s a little exercise for you, go here http://drf.com/entries/eindex.html
and pick any 3 races at random from any 3 tracks in the US and look up pedigrees on the horses in those races. Come back and tell me how many you find, if any, that have no Native Dancer.
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your guy’s logic
No idea who you are referring to!
And yes I have a clue how many horses are related to Native Dancer thus the concern that inbreeding is playing a factor in horses that may be prone to break down. I said “for what ever it is worth” off course not all horses will break down catastrophically but what is to say other injuries can’t be a precursor or just luck.
I think there are several factors and I promise you my filly had unusually thin weak bones! And ignoring the problem is not going to make it go away. I am pissed I lost my girl, it was devastating and it still hurts. I want to know why she was the way she was. I don’t want to see any more horses crumble.
I posted it because honestly I watched the Derby myself, and when this happened I thought to myself… hmmm I wonder if it could be genetic? A weakness due to breeding?
I saw this post on a blog and just scratched my head. I don’t know the validity of it, that’s why I posted it. I am not PETA supporter, I am a horse owner, and I have a filly that has Native Dancer lines… although she’s a WB. Her mom has the Native Dancer TB line.
I was curious. That’s all.
I can’t wait to see what the result of this are!
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=11236
Retired Racehorses to Participate in Texas A&M Study
by: Edited Press Release
January 29 2008, Article # 11236
More than 100 horses currently being cared for by the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation (TRF) will take part in a study at Texas A&M University that will attempt to identify genes in horses predisposed to fractures and catastrophic injuries.
“We’re looking for some kind of genetic trait that may make the difference,” said Jana Caldwell, a PhD student in the Department of Veterinary Integrative Biosciences at Texas A&M University’s College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences. She is working with a team specializing in genetics, which is headed by Bhanu Chowdhary, PhD.
“It seems fitting that our horses at the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation would find a way to give back,” said Diana Pikulski, executive director of the TRF.
The Equine Genetics Laboratory will receive tissue samples from horses who suffer catastrophic injuries from a group of regulatory veterinarians throughout the country. Researchers will also look at TRF horses that did not sustain career-ending injuries in 30 or more starts. This is a blind study, meaning researcher won’t know which group they’re looking at.
“The TRF horses are all over the country and have been exposed to all kinds of track conditions,” said Caldwell. "We’ll use approximately 170 of them in our study.
No organized studies have been carried out up till now to study the genetic aspect of racing career longevity. Hence, the team is undertaking this work with the long-term goal to identify genetic signatures that can help to predict which horses might be at higher risk of being injured on the track than others.
It blows my mind that no one has even bothered to look until now.
The potential impact of line breeding (to Raise a Native in particular) is discused in much less sensational terms in several other threads here, as well as in several articles elsewhere.
Ok, I think it’s understandable that people are going to use sensational language after a tragic event like this in front of literally millions of people. Of course people are going to over react,
I have not read all those other posts and was curious based on this event.
