Elastikon-- The care and feeding of

Elastikon— think ace bandage with super-sticky glue on one side. Very useful at times. Very expensive. Very, very, too sticky when taken out of one’s medicine chest after staying safely in storage there for some time.

Vet wrap does the same thing but for less money and with better/more colors.

And so I ask you all:

  1. Do you keep yours in a fridge?

Mine has lived in a barn in the PNW-- no real extremes in temperatures here, so I don’t see how my roll got so sticky ove time.

  1. Do you not keep these items on hand, but plan to buy them in an emergency, at emergency prices?

  2. Do you ditch both products and use something else?

Thanks. Tired of paying $10/roll to have it show me no work ethic.

I keep several rolls of generic vet wrap on hand. It seems to last ok. I’ve also only used it for hoof abscesses so far.

This is the first I’ve ever heard about keeping e-kon in the fridge… cold temperatures usually decrease the stickiness, and I would worry you would lose too much stickiness in the fridge. Being non-sticky is a bigger issue than being too sticky, because while it’s easier to get off the roll, it won’t do it’s job.

I do try to avoid extreme temperatures. As you know, heat increases the stickiness (pro tip: if you really need it to stick when applied, pop it in the microwave for a few seconds), so it can be hard to get off the roll in summer heat. Likewise, it can be useless if trying to apply it when it’s too cold, like if it’s been stored in a frigid barn in the wintertime.

I always keep at least one roll on hand. It’s rare I have more than one roll, though, because it’s expensive and I don’t use much of it at once. I generally just use it at the tops and sometimes bottoms of bandages to keep them in place and keep debris out, which means I’m only cutting a few strips off at a time. I love it for applying around the pastern/coronet to keep hoof bandages in place.

Re: vet wrap-- I always keep vet wrap on hand… I buy it any time it’s on sale. I get antsy if my stock drops as low as a half dozen rolls. But vet wrap doesn’t have adhesive, so it isn’t affected by temperature. E-kon is a luxury and you technically could wait to buy it in an emergency (if you have a local source), but vet wrap is not IMO.

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After having a horse with a serious injury that required bandaging daily, and then spending a small fortune on locally available supplies, I now keep a decent amount of bandaging materials handy. That I have bought online- dirt cheap.

I usually have a couple rolls of elastikon on hand but if I run out I go to duck tape. I usually just use it to keep the vet wrap in place. I will say that on a small bandage you definitely want the breathability of the elastikon, especially in warm or damp weather, so the duck tape is a temporary measure until I get more elastikon.

Yabbut, too sticky becomes a problem when taking the bandage off… and the horse who has stitches on a bendy part of her leg is objecting to having her fur and skin pulled…Bending the Bendy Part…With The Stitches!

That last bit is what prompted me to start this thread.

I LOVE Elastikon!

Using it allows me to put Vet-wrap on somewhat loosely, and then use the Elastikon to hold it up. I have seen my share of bandage bows due to Vet-wrap being applied with too much tension. I actually tend to use Champ wraps (washable ace bandage with Velcro) more often than Vet-wrap, as I can wash them and re-use them time and time again, and they seem to have more “give” than Vetwrap.

Yes, Elastikon is uber-sticky, and I never, ever, ever put it over a suture or damaged skin. I only apply it over healthy tissue.

Yes, Elastikon dries out eventually, and faster in a hot environment. It is also fairly useless in cold conditions, so I stash the roll in my bra to warm up before trying to apply it. Once it is on the horse, body heat seems to be enough to maintain it’s stickiness.

Elastikon has that pink line down the middle… Below the pink line goes over the Vet-wrap (or Champ or other bandaging material). Above the pink line goes on healthy skin/hair to hold it all in place. Sometimes I will do another layer of Elastikon above the 1st , so 2 widths on the skin, to hold the bandage on a moving joint.

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mvp, are you using elasticon with nothing underneath? I’ve only ever used it (or seen it used) as a top securing layer, generally over gauze of some type, then vet wrap, then a bit of elasticon to keep that all together and in place. I’d not want to use it directly over hair/skin/wound because of that super stickiness!

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NO! Not Elastikon on stitches or clipped bare skin. Yikes and Oy Vey! That would be a nightmare.

No, you see, after Mare was stitched up (and I’d say they put about $40 worth of wrapping material on her leg) the plan was use Elastikon, as you say-- at the top and bottom of the inner bandage (Telfa pad and gauze) to hold that thing up, No Matter What happened to the standing wrap outside.

Fine, but taking it off, even their fresh, appropriately sticky Elastikon meant some degree of pulling against her skin. And, people, this wasn’t even on full fur… even pulling on the very bald clipped section, Mare was not having it. Techniques were used to get it off with a minimum of leg waving around in protest that first day I had to change the bandage and built my own. But this meant that I was loath to put on that much Elastikon again. Mare is an attractive combination of Princess and Suspicious, so if you thought you were going to pull her skin every day for 14 days in a row without the leg waving going on or escalating, you have another thing coming. She has the power. I am humbly doing whatever I can to appease her as I bandage and unbandage.

I did not know that lore about the pink line. So I should see more and less stickiness on either side of it? That’s clever. I’ll check, but I don’t think I recall seeing an appreciable different. I think the glue side looks like it has a uniform coating of that stuff on it.

If it looses stickability, would putting an ice pack on the elastikon before removal make it easier to get off?

Hehe. Re-read the Mare’s Requirements*** above. Not sure she will have an ice pack, nor do I think putting that on will undo the chemical changes that too much heat** did to make the sticky side Stick–EEE.

***Mare’s requirements: No pulling the skin. No dripping down the leg. No TOUCHING MEEEEE if you have done these things prior. (Of course, she could have prevented all of this by not Touching Something such that she made a huge gash in her leg. How’s that for Touching Things?)

** And I really didn’t think my Elastikon had been subjected to extreme temps. This roll has lived in a tack trunk in a barn.

The line is just a visual guide for applying it “half on - half off”. There is no difference in the adhesive, nor is there a “this side up - other side down” rule. It is just a line down the middle.

Oh dear. Poor Miss Mare! Perhaps there’s another option to secure the bandage? Would a standing wrap over it work instead of the elasticon?

Sticking is kind of the raison d’etre for elasticon :lol: If you do need to tape, but need less sticky, maybe another athletic tape from the band aide aisle could be “just right” for your princess?

Oh, too…does the bandage REALLY need to be changed daily? Can you get away with every other? I had a vet in Colorado that preferred every third. He wanted that new healing tissue disturbed as little as possible!

I hope you’re able to find something to keep Miss Particular pleased!

Thank you for your understanding.

All good ideas. I have done a stacked set of standing wraps and that’s working pretty well. But this is on a knee (not the worst part of the knee, but some potential for movement), so I want to make damn sure that the non-stick Telfa pad way in there is where it should be. The gauze covering that really would stick a bit to the sutures and/or dried serum that’s on there. I do think I could go Tape Shopping and find another, slightly less sticky tape that would work and just lay it around the leg loosely, but sticking.

I am looking to go to every other day or every third day. My vet here has suggested that for the same reasons your Colorado vet did. I’ll let you guys know if I learn anything useful.

All these difficulties aside, you are right that Sticking is the raison d’etre for Elastikon, and thank God it is. Nothing is better for gluding some kind of bandage onto a hoof.

lol, elastikon had that pink line before vet wrap was even invented, so I think it is just there as an idiot’s guide to do the correct amount of overlap!

I leave mine at home, in the A/C and take it out to the barn when an injury of that level presents itself, since Southern heat and humidity turns it into a giant roll of goop after a while (generally I can get by with one bandage change with either a standing wrap, standing wrap over vetwrap or just vetwrap alone)

I doubt you can easily get it anymore, but we used to use ether in a dauber bottle to get rid of the sticky stuff left on the skin (it’s a fact of life with elastikon, if it ain’t leaving adhesive, it’s probably not staying up either). I always wonder who was the first vet tech? RN? who figured out ether had those majikal de-sticking properties?

What about this generic: https://www.heartlandvetsupply.com/p-3096-elastic-tape-generic.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o5&scid=scplp3096-3141--&sc_intid=3096-3141--&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4cf6kpTt2wIVC7jACh1OAgN8EAQYBSABEgJ5YvD_BwE

We kept adhesive remover on hand at the university vet hospital where I worked to deal with elastikon.

Another pro tip is to put a single “base layer” strip of e-kon around the leg where the top of the bandage would land (and the bottom if you’re doing that too). Then in daily bandage changes, you wrap the leg, and place the e-kon to hold the bandage in place on top of that base layer. The next day when you do another bandage change, just peal the e-kon off the base layer (leaving the base layer in place), thus protecting the skin underneath. That base layer strip stays in place until you are done bandaging or it starts to fall off and you replace it.

I’m probably not explaining this well.

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The only solution I found for getting it back off the Horribly Offended Equine was judicious use of ace. Mine was post-surgical and didn’t have to be sedated for stall rest, hand walking, or small paddock turnout. But he had to be generously aced for Elastikon removal. In the winter, when things were supposedly less sticky.

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So I’ve been bandaging bed sores on a horse for a while. She sleep crashes. And can I tell you how over it she is having them messed with? Btw, she is a sensitive redhead. I got some foam wound dressing. That goes on with a slightly larger size piece of Elastikon to keep the dressing from slipping. Then a lot of vetrap. Elastikon over the vetrap, but I am able to minimally get that on the hair. It’s mostly to keep the vetrap from falling off. If the location is a little more prone to slipping, you can put some on the hair. To remove that, don’t try to unwrap it. Stretch bits of the Elastikon away from the hair just loosening it and stretching it all out. Then cut open with bandage scissors. Any bits still stuck at that point just do the quick pull, preferably in the direction of hair growth.

I love elastikon…such a good product, but using vetrap under will help much of your problem.

When I used Elastikon on a nasty hock injury, I applied it in overlapping segments. Each was 4-6 inches long, when it came time to change, I cut through the layers and peeled it off in segments. Maresy tolerated this with less fussing than when I first tried applying and removing in continuous strips.

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Are bandage scissors not tolerated by Her Highness, Miss Mare? Or does the “waving limb around” preclude the use of safe bandage scissors for removal?