Not sure how many of you are involved in various Facebook groups outing racist and misogynist trainers/athletes.
I cannot believe the change in tolerance levels of statements from and actions of some members of the dressage elite.
It’s time. It’s also incredibly sad to read and see the behavior and various justifications.
I have no idea what you are speaking of…so I must not be in those groups. Can you repeat some of it? Did they post something in the own name? Is this more political?
Thank you, I am in the same boat.
I read it and scratched my head and then remembered that I was never part of the ‘in the know’ group so this must just be another situation like that and they are talking in code so the rest of us stay in the dark.
My daughter and I were at a clinic. The instructor was excellent. As this was a three day clinic, the option to have dinner each day with the clinician was presented. The first night we did so --after a bit of drink --the clinician spoke at length about topics of which we did not share his beliefs. He was as a teenager a refugee from the Middle East, spent time in camps, and ultimately came to the US and established himself in the horse world. However, his strong feelings about the cause of his difficult life, and whom he blamed for deaths of people close to him, were in our opinion not justified. My daughter started to disagree with him (she’s brilliant and might well have engaged him in a long, most likely heated, possibly ugly debate) --and I spoke softly to her so only she could hear. I said that we had come to learn to improve our riding, and not discuss controversial views. She nodded and and we excused ourselves and left the table. We did not socialize with the instructor again --we did finish the clinic and found the advise and help excellent.
Had we not been in an educational venue, I would have been willing to engage on a political level, and I would have supported my daughter’s decision to confront. But we were there to learn, not to debate. One never knows how “angering the teacher” may play out in subsequent instruction. I didn’t want to find out. It was a decision I made on the spot --my daughter and I have discussed it at length --and we decided never to use that clinician again.
If you find an instructor or trainer personally offensive, take your money and support elsewhere.
Absolutely. I won’t support someone whose views I find offensive at this point.
For those who don’t know, it’s no secret. Lars Petersen posted an insanely misogynist and racist meme, his wife supported it, multiple people in the dressage community commented, and the backlash has been swift; thank goodness. It’s not a secret.
We have so many talented riders and good humans; people like this will still have their followers, but the number has gone down. They were reported to multiple organizations.
again, it’s not a secret.
Posted where, please?
Thank you, good to know. Please provide links. This needs to be verified.
It is one thing to express one’s political views and another to post a disgusting, sexual, racist, misogynist meme.
Impressive cross-platform vaguebooking, congrats.
A million times, this.
Good lord, OP.
On his page, which has been taken down. As has his wife’s.
:lol: No concern to me whether you believe it. It’s all over the place. But by all means, carry on with your faux exasperation. .
Exactly. Entirely different issue. Couldn’t believe it.
I guess they do want it to be a secret.
Apparently not, I spent a few minutes looking and couldn’t find what you are referring to. It is exasperating to read this and not know what the hell you are referencing. If it is public, why can’t you link something since it is everywhere on your feed?
it isn’t a matter of believing or not, I just want to see the actual offensive meme!
Then why the incredibly nasty comment and not just simply ask for a copy of it?
Incredibly nasty? Um…you must be mistaking me for someone else.
You sound like you are angry at us.
If you are not, I am sorry for taking your post(s) that way.
I am confused by this post. There are several posts from people saying they have no idea what you are talking about. Isn’t that the same thing as saying “please give us more information about what you are talking about?” which is the same as “please share a copy of what you are talking about so we can understand”.
You started the topic and it was VERY vague. Not sure why you are annoyed at us for not catching on.
Um…did you not write this little gem? “Impressive cross-platform vaguebooking, congrats.”
seriously now. This isn’t the issue.
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