Embarrassingly silly question....KWPN

How do you actually say KWPN out loud? Do you just say all four letters? What does KWPN stand for? Also, I understand the breed originated in the Netherlands (well, so says google). Is a Dutch Warmblood the same as a KWPN? Or totally different?

Sorry, I’ve actually wondered this for years but never actually asked! :lol:

Just say the four letters. KWPN and Dutch warmblood are the same. KWPN stands for Koninklijk Warmbloed Paardenstamboek Nederland (Royal Warmblood Studbook of the Netherlands).

Hope that helps!

Very helpful, thanks! Yikes, I can see why it’s abbreviated now. :slight_smile:

Although commonly known as Dutch Warmbloods, the official name in English is Royal Dutch Sport Horse.

Hilton Hall Sport Horses

https://www.facebook.com/HiltonHallSporthorses

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Very helpful, thanks! Yikes, I can see why it’s abbreviated now. :)[/QUOTE]

No kidding! I didn’t know either, so thanks for asking!

FWIW, there is another Dutch Warmblood studbook besides KWPN. Nederlands Rijpaarden en Pony Stamboek (NRPS) registers riding horses and ponies, but it differs from KWPN in that it doesn’t have “royal status” like KWPN, and is little known outside of The Netherlands. Horses from that registry are also referred to as “Dutch Warmbloods”, and KWPN considers it as an Erkend studbook.

All Erkend means is recognized.
http://kwpn-na.org/kwpn-erkend/

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All Erkend means is recognized.
http://kwpn-na.org/kwpn-erkend/[/QUOTE]

Yes, dearie. I know that. :rolleyes:

And I mentioned it, because there are some registries that KWPN does not consider Erkend - such as Rheinland Pfalz-Saar, ISR/ONA, Polish Trakehner, Canadian Warmblood, AWR, and AWS.

So why not use English or write your whole post in Dutch ?

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So why not use English or write your whole post in Dutch ?[/QUOTE]

Uh - because “Erkend” is an important enough term to KWPN that they use it consistently, even when the rest of the sentence or page is in English - as on this page.
http://kwpn-na.org/kwpn-erkend/

If someone is going to breed KWPN, they are going to hear “Erkend” a lot.

All studbooks here are erkend: http://www.kwpn.nl/2013/02/uitbreiding-kwpn-erkende-stamboeken/

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All studbooks here are erkend: http://www.kwpn.nl/2013/02/uitbreiding-kwpn-erkende-stamboeken/[/QUOTE]

You bad girl! You mixed English and Dutch in the same sentence! :lol:

But yes, that list is the same list as on the link I posted above (post #10).

Oops, sorry I had not seen that the link was already there.

By the way, sometimes I have seen people here use the word keuring.
I do not mind.

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/art-pretentiousness

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https://www.theodysseyonline.com/art-pretentiousness[/QUOTE]

Pot, meet kettle. :wink:

Although I am Dutch I promise to not use any Dutch words again even when American people are using them :slight_smile:

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Although I am Dutch I promise to not use any Dutch words again even when American people are using them :-)[/QUOTE]

I hope you realize that I was just teasing you. :slight_smile:

It is Equibrit who seems to think no one should mix languages. :rolleyes:

Yes I know :smiley: :slight_smile: :yes:

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How do you actually say KWPN out loud? Do you just say all four letters? What does KWPN stand for? Also, I understand the breed originated in the Netherlands (well, so says google). Is a Dutch Warmblood the same as a KWPN? Or totally different?

Sorry, I’ve actually wondered this for years but never actually asked! :lol:[/QUOTE]

The registry originated in the Netherlands. Many of the original mares were strictly of local ancestry, but the goals of the registry (at least one of their ‘division’ sets of books) are Sporthorse, so many horses of other registries (see erkend -LOL) have been crossed in or admitted to the studbook.

This is actually the case with most of the European WB studbooks with the possible exception of Trakehner and Holstein.

As with any horse, review the quality of the individual, the pedigree and the near relatives, not the registry book (so long as all is erkend) when selecting, evaluating and pricing.