Emily King, Yikes! Glad You are OK.

It never ceases to amaze me… how many of us, that have ever ridden a horse over obstacles or just out hacking, have lived to tell about it…

Heal up Emily! Glad you made it! :yes:

Lucky, lucky kid!

Yikes that looked bad! The Kings aren’t having a very good summer this year.

P.

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Yikes that looked bad! The Kings aren’t having a very good summer this year.

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They are certainly not!

Viewed another way…they are having a very lucky summer. She is very lucky to be walking away from that fall without significant injury to her or her horse(although she sounds a bit banged up). Scary.

Thank goodness they both were able to survive that fall. A technical question, would that be considered a rotational fall? I looks like it to me and the FP certainly reduced something to make it survivable. I like her spirit.

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Thank goodness they both were able to survive that fall. A technical question, would that be considered a rotational fall? I looks like it to me and the FP certainly reduced something to make it survivable. I like her spirit.[/QUOTE]

Not rotational (but DAMN close)…just a fall. Rotational, he would have flipped (over/around the jump)…heels straight up over ears. Because of the pin breaking…they just fell.

I think it would have been one of the bad rotational falls that we talk about had the pin not broken.

Man, that had to hurt!

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Not rotational (but DAMN close)…just a fall. Rotational, he would have flipped (over/around the jump)…heels straight up over ears. Because of the pin breaking…they just fell.

I think it would have been one of the bad rotational falls that we talk about had the pin not broken.[/QUOTE]
hmmm…Clearly agree with the last thought, but when you look at the 3rd and 4th picture, the horses hooves are certainly above his head before he hits the ground (in 3) and he lands on his back, back legs straight up in the air, fronts still above head (rider way to close to horse). The pin clearly reduced something, maybe the rate or height of rotation which made this less horrific (thank goodness).

I guess to my inexperienced self, a horse fall would be more akin to tripping and falling forward onto (or past) the knees (that I have experienced) or a trip falling sideways (had that experience as well) or a slip that has the horse fall sideways back to front.

As you say, it is a close call, not something to dwell with and part of the safety program worked. Accidents happen, but when we can analyze them and look not just at the cause, but also test whether the system worked it can help us all improve. Looking at the pictures is a little rough for this “mature” LL eventer, but I also am trying to learn so maybe we can be better prepared.

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hmmm…Clearly agree with the last thought, but when you look at the 3rd and 4th picture, the horses hooves are certainly above his head before he hits the ground (in 3) and he lands on his back, back legs straight up in the air, fronts still above head (rider way to close to horse). The pin clearly reduced something, maybe the rate or height of rotation which made this less horrific (thank goodness).

I guess to my inexperienced self, a horse fall would be more akin to tripping and falling forward onto (or past) the knees (that I have experienced) or a trip falling sideways (had that experience as well) or a slip that has the horse fall sideways back to front.

As you say, it is a close call, not something to dwell with and part of the safety program worked. Accidents happen, but when we can analyze them and look not just at the cause, but also test whether the system worked it can help us all improve. Looking at the pictures is a little rough for this “mature” LL eventer, but I also am trying to learn so maybe we can be better prepared.[/QUOTE]

different experiences. Horses fall over fences. Their head will be lower than their hind feet. But he fell over the fence sliding off it and then landing on his side and rolling onto his back. When the flip…they flip. Hind feet come over the head and they somersault…head usually landing facing the opposite direction they had been traveling. In this case, the fence falling down changed and stopped the full rotation. I’ve seen full rotations…they have a different look…but when they fall on a fence, and slide over it…this is what it looks like.

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different experiences. …but when they fall on a fence, and slide over it…this is what it looks like.[/QUOTE]
Ah…thank you.