End of soring and stacked shoes on TWH

Today’s press release from USDA. Let’s hope there is enough teeth in this to make it stick.

That is wonderful - at last!! But

Beginning January 1, 2018, management of horse shows, exhibitions, sales, and auctions that elect to use inspection services, must appoint and retain a HPI to inspect horses.
what of shows etc that don’t elect to use inspection services? Or am I being cynical?

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That is wonderful - at last!! But what of shows etc that don’t elect to use inspection services? Or am I being cynical?[/QUOTE]

We can hope that the results of this will trickle down to them, or that inspection services will become more of a standard.

I’m excited, but cautious. I hope at least those horrible stacks are gone by Jan. 1, 2018.

It’s the judges who allow this to continue.

Saddlebreds and TWH with the stupid shoeing and cruelty.
Dressage with the Rolkur
Quarter Horses doing that idiotic peanut rolling gate…jeeze, they look crippled.

When judges and TD’s finally do something, things will change more quickly.

It’s the judges who allow this to continue.

Saddlebreds and TWH with the stupid shoeing and cruelty.
Dressage with the Rolkur
Quarter Horses doing that idiotic peanut rolling gate…jeeze, they look crippled.

When judges and TD’s finally do something, things will change more quickly.

Why wait a year??? The horses deserve relief now!!!

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Why wait a year??? The horses deserve relief now!!![/QUOTE]

“This delayed implementation allows ample time to both gradually reduce the size of pads to minimize any potential physiological stress to the horses and prepare horses to compete in other classes.”

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Why wait a year??? The horses deserve relief now!!![/QUOTE]

I’d honestly worry about the tendons/ligaments if they went from those stacks to nothing overnight. Some let-down time may be in their best interests.

It will take a year for multiple reasons.

Bringing the horses down is one.

Then you have to train and certify the inspectors.

Then you have to train show management.

Last, and far from least, you need an adjudication system to deal with alleged violations of rules.

G.

The Big Lick diehards will start their own show circuit without inspectors. The people who do this don’t care about what the USDA or anyone else says.

If they start up a show circuit ‘outside’ inspection, we can hope it becomes a matter for the humane inspectors based upon this decision.

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The Big Lick diehards will start their own show circuit without inspectors. The people who do this don’t care about what the USDA or anyone else says.[/QUOTE]

I guess they could try but sadly for them the law applies to the nation, not to any particular “show circuit.”

There will be attempts at resistance. Since no one has yet been charged they’res not much basis for litigation (there are no significant Constitutional issues I see in the Rules). So just as the original HPA was shaped by litigation and rules since have also been shaped that way so will these rules.

G.

It is not the end. It still has to go through approval stages. The president has to sign off on it and then congress approves it.

The TWH industry is preparing to sue the US government also. They intend to fight this by saying it is unconstitutional and violates certain executive orders.

“Saddlebreds and TWH with their stupid shoeing and cruelty”

saddlebreds do not deserve to be thrown in with TWH. The saddlebreds do not practice the cruel methods that the Big Lick people do.

Just because the horses step step high and wear a pad, do not mistake them for the same thing.

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I read a scary statement from a big lick big shot. He’s putting his faith in the incoming administration to get the ban overturned, opps, not implemented at all.

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I read a scary statement from a big lick big shot. He’s putting his faith in the incoming administration to get the ban overturned, opps, not implemented at all.[/QUOTE]

I’ve heard the same thing and there’s precident: VP Al Gore protected the Industry in the development of the DQP system back in the '90s when I was associated with anti-soring forces then.

With luck President Trump will have bigger fish to try.

G.

Due to contracted tendons and angles of the hooves, IMO they must be brought down gradually as to not inflict more damage…If you wear heels all the time your tendons shorten (contract) and you walk barefoot/in flats and it is painful…does that make sense to you? Some of these horses will never physically be ok flat due to the long term wearing of the pads and the horrid angles they use.

CFFarm they may do that but they cannot legally stop the USDA from coming onto the property to inspect the horses…I live here and boy are they upset…hahaha…they deserve it. Soring is going on right now in 2 barns and that is all I am at liberty to say right now…S*** is going to hit the fan soon.

Thanks, Obama. :wink: Let’s hope it sticks.

It’s time the TWH industry came back to horse sport and the love of horses. Their nice horses deserve so much better.