Endurance horse excited by other horses

Hi there, this is my first post !
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I wanted to ask - the horse I train for endurance is great, sound legs, good heart/metabolic etc and in training is wonderful. I absolutely love him. He could be an excellent endurance horse .

However in a race, he takes off and nothing you can do can slow him down, so of course he never passes the vet check. He can stay calm as long as other horses are calm, but if any horse acts up then BAM he feeds off their energy and just goes for it.

Other horses just excite him so much that he just surges ahead. Hard to get him used to so many horses around him outside of a race. He will get very irritated at being held back and start to buck a little too.

The trails around me are not wide enough to turn and circle him around at that speed. I do not want to use a stronger bit - he has a sensitive mouth, he just chooses to ignore it during race time, and a bit doesn’t solve the origin of the problem.

Is there anything to suggest or should I give up with him being an endurance horse?

Thanks

How old is the horse, what’s the background, and what’s the training program you have for him?

G.

A stronger bit could help but work with it prior to any race. Test it in an enclosed area.

Choose one that has an easy release (gag) or that can be activated by a second pair of reins (pessoa, pelham, kimberwick, etc).

Or ride with draw reins ajusted loosely, action only coming if the horse misbehave.

If you could find good horses to work with who would (fully controlled by their rider) startled their mount - then yours - and bring them back quickly to « normal », it would be the best. I’ve done that for a few younger horses and it worked wonders. They realize that they can calm down after panicking.

I personally don’t believe any kind of gadget could fix this behavior as it is more of a mental issue.

You are in a tough situation though that many endurance riders have to either work with or find a horse that better suits the job. We don’t have the option to use any type of calming supplements in the sport.

The first thing I would do honestly, is check for ulcers. It sounds unrelated but it’s incredibly important to rule it out. Based on my conversations I’ve had with many E-riders and my own personal experiences I’d guess 80% of the time the behavior is related to ulcers. During times of stress (travel, base camps, rides), ulcers will be more painful for horses. This causes them to act uncharacteristic, stressed out, and panicky.If you rule out ulcers (instead of scoping, you can also have your vet perform a fecal test which is much more affordable or try giving Ulcer-Gard at your next high-stress ride and see if it helps).

Horses by nature are herd animals. So put yourself in your horse’s hooves…he finally settles into a new environment (base camp), is trying to figure out what the heck this big horse convention is, is probably trying to make friends or desperately whinnying hoping he’ll find someone he knows. He finally relaxes as night falls and come dawn everyone is tacking up and pulling their horses away from their trailers. Then, majority of the horses in a base camp are heading out on the trail and your horse is thinking “OMG! They are all leaving me, I’m going to be alone in this environment I’ve never been to before, I don’t know how to get home!”. People may try to say it’s a training issue and that your horse isn’t focusing on you but how can you blame him when he’s put in this situation? The training will come from working through it and allowing your horse to develop a trust in you the more rides you do. With more rides, he will eventually start thinking “My human has gotten me through these rides many times, I’ve always ended up back at camp, and then I’m returned home.”

My success stories come from having a conditioning partner. The stress of an endurance ride can cause ridiculous herd-bound behaviors that your horse doesn’t normally show on a solo conditioning or trail ride. Having a buddy horse that your horse has become accustomed to will help everything from being quieter/calmer at vet checks and knowing his buddy horse isn’t leaving him on the ride. You can look on the AERC website for Mentors or Riding Partners (Education > Mentors> Regional Mentors). Try to find a horse that will pace well with yours, explain your situation, and discuss your goal for your next ride (probably just to get through it!). Try to meet up with that rider once a week leading up to your ride.

I know your situation. I started doing Endurance on my former showjumper/eventer Thoroughbred mare. She acted the same way until I started riding her with a laid back gelding who’s owner liked to “Turtle” on. He complemented her really well and it helped me complete the rides. I try to ride with someone on my TWH mare too as she can be nervous/anxious; especially the first loop of a ride. I personally prefer to ride alone, but I’d also rather complete rides and if that’s what it takes for a while then that’s what I’ll have to do. I can’t stress the importance of conditioning with someone BEFORE the ride to figure out the best game plan. For example, if my conditioning partner rides her mare and I ride my mare we switch off leading every mile if we can because both mares like to lead. An Endurance ride is not a good time to figure out a plan. Eventually, seasoned horses become more accustomed to what they are doing. There will be times where a friend may have to pull and you are stuck on your own. Let those opportunities test your horse’s independence when you don’t have other options.

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