Equestrian Court of Grammatical Peeves

this horse is a single phase one

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But would you look at a roan horse and say it has dapples? Mine certainly doesn’t.

@ShenanAnna That would bother me so much! There was this lady who used to board with me who did all the local APHA breed shows. She called her APHA-registered horse a “pinto.” It drove me crazy.

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I see this on standard holiday cards sold in the store, too. So annoying.

I just this morning was reading an article on promising two-year-olds who might be on the road to next year’s Kentucky Derby. Right there in the list was a horse named Two Phil’s.

Argh! I quickly read on to find better-named horses to support.

:rofl: exactly!

Ha! When I was a working person, I would always say bye to co-workers with a “See ya. Going to the barn.”

After a year of working with someone new, he finally quietly asked one of my friends if I had a drinking problem. After that, it was “Going to take care of my horse.”

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@sascha Well “back in the day” when Quarter Horses were just “western horses”, they got ridden, driven, used for plowing as well! But QHs types seldom were called draft horses, even when crossed with the heavy, draft breeds. There is actually a fair amount of true draft blood in some foundation QH pedigrees, behind the unknown breeding of mare or sire.

Clevelands were pretty all-purpose for the people who owned them 200+ years ago when the Breed Registry started. Couldn’t afford several horse skill specialists when you had to feed them all! Ha ha Black Beauty was a TB, both rode and drove, no one called him a draft horse! Draught is used in the UK, but SOUNDS like draft when spoken. Who asks spelling in a conversation?

Other uses of draught were a game with pieces, a measure of ale/beer that was served, the depth of a boat keel in the water.

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Whatever. Draft with an “f” and “draught” with a ugh are EXACTLY the same word just as plow and plough and color and colour. It’s a spelling thing that has nothing to do with pronunciation, they are pronounced the same regardless of spelling.

It’s a shame that someone somewhere may have classified them wrongly, but whatever. People who know anything about breeds at all know that the modern Cleveland Bay is a sport-type horse.

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This reminds me of a sweet high school classmate of mine who asked me about the differences in “es-que-tarian riding.” :pleading_face:

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Phonics - or the more complex version of it - does indeed help with both reading and writing @McGurk - you need to be able to decode the words. If you can’t decode it, you won’t understand what you are reading very well especially with new vocabulary. You also can’t build fluency.

It was a little more complex than sight reading. It was the use of the whole language strategy, which oddly, did not mean don’t teach phonics but it seemed to go that way anyway.
Science of reading is much more prescriptive and supports those with reading challenges very well.
I am retired educator with a specialists in teaching reading and writing. It’s quite interesting to see how things have changed. Resources and lack of supports for those with difficulties have made things more difficult to teach in general.

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You sell a horse that is for sale. You do not have to sale your horse that is for sell.

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This one is related to animals in general, but I have seen it used for horse ads, even though less frequently than for cat/dog ads.

“Loves to be pet.” As in “Old Pete loves to be pet and will stand there forever.”

NO! Petted. It’s just one more syllable. We really have enough time in life to state/type/read that one additional syllable. You pet your animals. They love to be petted.

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@seriously1,

Thanks for the explanation. My information on this subject is based on how different reading instruction was for my daughter than it was for me, and information from my friend who is a reading tutor. I was born in 58, my daughter was born in 98. My daughter read early, was reading aloud fluently at 4 and progressed to chapter books shortly after. She was also a child who was read aloud to pretty much constantly, and listened to recorded books. As an adult, she is a voracious reader who still hasn’t moved all her books and bookcases out of her childhood home, but her spelling is still kinda sketchy.

It is entirely possible that the pedagogy of reading instruction has evolved in the 20 years since, but I haven’t had a kid in school so I’m not aware.

What I was aware of 20 years ago was that the phonics worksheets teaching sounds of individual consonants, vowels and dipthongs that I saw as a child were gone, and that we made lots of home made flash cards of sight words to memorize. As to what was actually being taught in the classroom, and the thinking behind it, I don’t know.

I don’t think that it’s coincidental that the notorious “Hooked on Phonics” program came out in '87, and reached it’s peak in the mid 90s. I drew the conclusion that as reading instruction changed and favored different learning styles, parents with kids of the unfavored learning style sought out phonics instruction. Perhaps that’s a case of good data, bad conclusion; so I’m willing to be corrected.

If the pendulum has swung back to a more nuanced approach to phonics, hooray!

The thing that led me coming back to this thread was @S1969’s quote:

I reject the idea that poor spelling means you are probably a poor reader. First of all, they are entirely different skills: reading is decoding, spelling is encoding. Perfectly possible to be good at one and bad at the other. It would be great if pedagogy and actual teaching addressed both, but I think teachers are wearing enough hats and doing enough different jobs already.

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I think we are ignoring the very good COTH inspired words (or at least words I learned from COTH over the years). They may be incorrect but I use them Aghasted is favorite of mine as is Asshatress. The wonderful thing about language is that it is flexible and organic.

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I want that. I’d put it right in my living room.

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But I said "people who misspell ridding and riding
and then further clarified with if this is a common mistake. I’m not talking about randomly not being a good speller. Like accomodate or embarass or temperment, or not remembering how to spell certain words.

I think a pattern of not knowing the difference between the long and short vowel form of similar words would suggest a reading issue as well. But
I’ll ask my friend who is a reading specialist what she thinks.

The whole is it a pony or a horse thingy is too complicated for anyone peripheral to the horse world to keep straight. I ride my 14.2 Morgan HORSE with my friend who rides a 15.2 Dales PONY. Don’t call my Morgan a pony or I’ll stab you with my hoof pick! And don’t get me started on Miniature Horses.

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My own personal peeve is the bizarro popularity of “woah”. Where did that come from? Now it’s almost an accepted alternate spelling!

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my city just rewrote the animal control ordnance, before it had horses and pony as separate items for accounting of the head per lot
 but not any of the animal control personal could say just what a Horse was or what a Pony was.

So, rather than using Horse and Pony got them to insert a measurement with instructions on how to measure

My last boss was fussy about the correct use of impact. 90% of the time when I used it, he struck it out and replaced it with affect. So using impact will not necessarily solve your problem.

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