Equestrian is the Laughing Stock @ NBC

I get it on my Mac just fine. You do have to have a newer mac with the intel processing chip. Only my laptop has that but it worked out nicely… I can work on the Big Mac (non Intel desktop) and have the feeds on the mactop. Plus they also have replays… in thier entirety so no 4-5 am’s for me! (Mountain Time)

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It’s great so many of you can get the live feed but for those of us with Mac’s we aren’t able to. Don’t you think someone like NBC could figure out how to make it available for Mac users too. I would love to watch the live feed. I watched the Oxygen channel, I also video taped it, saw only 2 horses go. I might have missed others since I was switching channels. How long was the Equestrian on?[/QUOTE]

All you need to access the feeds is Silverlight (the Microsoft equivalent of Adobe Flash video) which runs on the Mac platform though I think it’s Intel Mac only which leaves a huge number of Apple customers out since many of their systems are only now reaching the end of life period if they haven’t had regular maintenance or refurbishment.

For once

we in Canada cannot fault CBC. Granted they offer Equestrian coverage on their digital channel, but it is very very complete. Live coverage in the morning and rerun at night. We saw all the dressage/XC/SJ twice. We did miss some of the Canadian riders XC, but they did show the problems later on.

To top it all, Bold TV is offered as extra for $2.79/month if you already have a digital box, but when I called to order it and refused the package of 5 extra channels for $10… they gave it to me free for 3 months!!! Bold TV only shows equestrian events and sailing! The regular network shows all the other sports (but we did not see much of the cycling events either).

I feel quite privileged this year that I don’t have to sit in front of a computer (and the nbc stream does not work in Canada).

So thank you CBC!!

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It’s great so many of you can get the live feed but for those of us with Mac’s we aren’t able to. Don’t you think someone like NBC could figure out how to make it available for Mac users too. <snip>?[/QUOTE]
Think about it. What do the initials MSNBC stand for?

Another ‘brag’ for Canadian tv - CBC affiliate (originally ‘Country Canada’, now called ‘Bold’) had full coverage of WEG and is again covering every ride in HK (definitely not Canadian cameras but feed from whomever is doing it). I recommend individual letters/e-mail to whatever channel in the US is covering horse sport (Oxygen?). It is all about viewers so make yourselves heard!

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It’s great so many of you can get the live feed but for those of us with Mac’s we aren’t able to. Don’t you think someone like NBC could figure out how to make it available for Mac users too. [/QUOTE]
I begged my husband not to get a Mac.
Just sucks.

Springer posted:

America wants T & A. A few letters aren’t going to fix it. I wish I could move to Germany!

Well, that’s certainly a winning attitude! (NOT!).

Who said anything about a few letters? I suggested we ALL write. I think there are more than a few of us!

And as for what “America” wants–am I not part of America? I, for one American, don’t want “just” T&A (frankly don’t care much for T at all). That sort of statement really makes me angry. “America wants [fill in the blank.” America is not some huge organism; it is a country made up of individuals with diverse tastes.

Go ahead, move to Germany, if you can get a work permit. It’s a nice country, at least what I’ve seen of it.

you can get it on Macs with Intel - we’ve been watching along on the Mac Book Pro :slight_smile:

I may be naive here, but I think the folks at NBC respond to market demand. I’m willing to bet that after these games are over they will analyze the “hits” they received on each of the venues on live streaming. If they see a lot of hits for a particular venue (e.g., equestrian) that translates into a bigger bottom line $ value for producing coverage in that venue. Hits on live streaming is a real indication of how many people care about seeing this sport broadcast (regardless of the medium). I think # of hits on live streaming is going to mean more to them than all the letters we can generate combined. Just because you are an equestrian doesn’t mean you watch equestrian events.

Go out there and get all your friends and neighbors to fire up their computers and open up one of the equestrian rewind videos. I don’t even care if they watch it, just open it and let it run while they go have a cup of coffee. NBC won’t know the difference.

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I may be naive here, but I think the folks at NBC respond to market demand. I’m willing to bet that after these games are over they will analyze the “hits” they received on each of the venues on live streaming. If they see a lot of hits for a particular venue (e.g., equestrian) that translates into a bigger bottom line $ value for producing coverage in that venue. Hits on live streaming is a real indication of how many people care about seeing this sport broadcast (regardless of the medium). I think # of hits on live streaming is going to mean more to them than all the letters we can generate combined. Just because you are an equestrian doesn’t mean you watch equestrian events.

Go out there and get all your friends and neighbors to fire up their computers and open up one of the equestrian rewind videos. I don’t even care if they watch it, just open it and let it run while they go have a cup of coffee. NBC won’t know the difference.[/QUOTE]

You are right on this one for sure. We all do the analytics now on the web hits and this is definitely the way the future will work. However I also do believe that the networks are some of the last bastions truly run by men. Those men came up the ranks and equestrian was not part of the menu.
It has recently become a lot more popular. Their decision making processes are glued to patterns that were a sure hit 10 years ago- not now. It’s way too risky to change the programming to such a large degree while associating such high costs with it - when you KNOW- like FOR SURE- that you have high quality topics that WILL get mass approval…
Noone will go out on a limb like that- the answer is web feeds- and they will get better and include Macs and be even more comprehensive…
The software that Microsoft put together to cover this last minute is still in beta testing…so you know- we’re just again becoming witness to a huge change in how stuff is served up!!

I suggest- buy bigger monitors for your computers- or use your TV as monitor for your computer…;))

It is a really good idea, for those of us who have computers that can load the clips.

For the rest of us … well …

I do think that this thread has a lot of good examples of the reality of being an equestrian-event fan. Some people believe that equestrian events shouldn’t be included in the Olympic Games because equestrian sports are elitist and only for the rich. This thread is great proof that that is just plain not the case! Most of the horse owners I know are struggling financially, hoping to find affordable hay, etc., not rushing out and buying the latest computers just so they can watch the Olympics on them. And come next February, with the switch to digital-only TV viewing, we’ll get another hit in the wallet.

I’m on a Mac and the live feed is working wonderfully well for me (OS 10.5.2 with fiber optic internet service). And I did send NBC an email, complimenting them on the live feed and the extensive video replays that are available. I will probably send them another one at the end.

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Fine, so put the dressage riders in bikinis! :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Why do you think that dreadfully boring beach volleyball is getting so much air time?

I live with someone who works for NBC (well, our local affiliate anyway). He and his big-wig boss sat and went over ratings the other night. Don’t watch what you aren’t interested in. End of story.

If you like it-watch it. The more people that watch (online, replays, tv etc) the more likely the coverage in the future.

You can write letters-never hurts. Complaining and whining don’t get the best results. They go into a pile and get looked at “when they feel like it”. They do take the complaints into consideration but ultimately it’s the ratings that get the job done.

Also, we want to see everything. I think that’s an American way of thinking. Now, before you jump all over me for that statement read the rest of this please. It’s truly not feesable to cover all sports through all sets. It costs the stations a small fortune to broadcast what they do. They pull ratings from the past and try to give us coverage of the biggest draws. They really can’t please everyone. I am of the thought process that you don’t know what people will watch until you try it. However, majority wins - always. I could keep going but I’m sure you all get my point.

Watch, watch, and watch again everything equestrian you can. That will get results. NBC has done a great job getting as much out there as they can this year–more stations, more coverage (even if minimal) on events that we often haven’t seen in the past. If you want more equestrian - be the majority. Maybe the man from the op laughs when people bring it up as a filler but I can tell you my local station has already taken notice and isn’t laughing :yes:

Wow, superspot, you’re good. I’m not a joiner, but you have me excited about making a difference. You do know how to sell something, and I would like you to continue to promote these suggestions, because the sane and intelligent way you discuss this seems very well thought out and that’s what turns something from a joke to an eye opening. I’d like to see sports in US take these sports seriously. How to promote it?

Still don’t get the beach volleyball thing. The horses are wearing less and are much more attractive :slight_smile:

Well, now I read 2tbs post and I agree with that too. It is ratings which drives the US coverage. Can you elaborate about your local station which is covering equestrian? What makes them cover it, where are you (generally) and what kind of station is that, what drives their decisions to cover?

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Another ‘brag’ for Canadian tv - CBC affiliate (originally ‘Country Canada’, now called ‘Bold’) had full coverage of WEG and is again covering every ride in HK (definitely not Canadian cameras but feed from whomever is doing it). I recommend individual letters/e-mail to whatever channel in the US is covering horse sport (Oxygen?). It is all about viewers so make yourselves heard![/QUOTE]

Another brag for our canadian coverage. It is fantastic to be able to watch all it. We have been watching horse events on bold (used to be cc) for a while now and are thrilled to see the response it is getting. Apparently lots of people are requesting the channel from cable and satellite providers - just goes to show - broadcast it and they will come.

I think that if they promoted these stations in the horse mags they would get even more viewers.

If they show it praise them and watch it, if they don’t show it - ask for it so they know we want it.

I for one am sick of beach volleyball.

If they knew how much big money was involved in equestrian sports, they’d be all over it.

If they also knew how much big money equestrian sports generates in the US, they’d be all over it.

If they knew how many people are involved in equestrian sports - at all levels - they’d be all over it.

When they acknowledge that show horses outnumber race horses in the US by 3:1, then they’ll pay more attention.