I really love what this supplement has done for my gelding. The problem is that the shipping costs are outrageous, and on auto ship they can’t manage to ship before the prior bottle is finished, causing a lapse between doses. I would like to find a similar product in price and mechanism of action. Any suggestions?
https://www.equineelixirs.com/pages/positude-label
Well first you have to figure out what’s in it. Looks like chasteberry, dong quai and raspberry leaves. Those are in many of the “cranky mare” herbal hormone supplements. You’d need to see if the other products affect your horse the same way. Or you could get the raw ingredients. Looks like posture has excellent verbiage however which tends to increase the price
That’s exactly what I’ve been looking at. I would assume the active ingredient is the vitex since it’s first listed. Seems to have a few options on smartpak but just thought I’d post here for some anecdotes
What is vitex? Oh right looked it up, it’s chasteberry. I think you can get that just as a plain herb.
I just thought I would try COTH for feedback on any adverse effects of Equine Elixers’ Positude, Been using it on my green, athletic, and very hormonal mare for 3 months, and I do see a positive difference over just Raspberry leaves and the Magnesium in another supplement. However, I would be wary of just buying the ingredients (Chasteberry, etc) and combining them myself.
Why would you be wary of this?
Assuring the correct portion of each ingredient. I buy the large pump bottle, not cheap, but saves on shipping and really easy to add liquid to feed. My first big pump container was dumped all over the floor of the trashed grain room in an awful sticky $$ mess, when said mare, a talented stall escape artist, took advantage of my leaving grain room door open for a couple hours to warm up in winter. Don’t do that.
Well I suppose it depends on a ratio of cost vs convenience versus what you can afford. I certainly am OK feeding Mad Barn Omneity Premix rather than messing around with copper, zinc and vitamin E.
But if something was just herbs that were super cheap in bulk but the packaged product was extremely expensive I’d think about experimenting.
Of course a wrinkle in all herbs is that the potency cam varu so much. If you’ve ever grown culinary herbs you know how much the flavor can change over the season, and how they can deteriorate in storage. And if you ever bought home grown marijuana back in the day :), you likely experienced vast ranges of potency even when you weren’t being actually ripped off. So if this formula is effective it may be the case that they are able to reliably source quality herbs.
If you are worried about side effects I would look at each thing individually. Raspberry leaves are innocuous, my mare will chow down on Himalayan blackberry leaves which are very closely related.
Edited to add, I went back to Google this product. From the discussion above I assumed it was purely herbal or maybe I didn’t look carefully enough? But anyhow it (now?) contains hydroxytryptophan which apparently legitimately affects serotonin levels. That strikes me as potentially the most effective ingredient.
https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/supplement/5-hydroxytryptophan-5-htp
That would suggest it’s not really hormone support so much as serotonin support.