Is there any current or updated data or support that they help with healing? TIA If so whata re the “real ones” vs what I assume are a lot of scammy ones?
(And from all the ads I am getting now it looks like when I am finished using on the horse-I can use it to get rid of wrinkles…joking…sorta…:))
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Here is the article I am aware of…
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Note, that is a full power, multispectral, medical laser that really should never be used by the general public (e.g. will you actually wear the protective lenses every time, get the medical training for use,…). That tells you how much power is need to actually effect tissues. At the same time these system range in price from $10k-$24k.
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there are several classes of lasers. i believe you want Class 4 for soft tissue injuries
I’ve been using this one on my horses for various issues — tendon injuries, SI fracture. On the dog for ACL. On myself for a bunch of things including cellulitis.
It is made just outside Nashville, TN. I bought my first one around 2006 and it was still going strong in 2020 until I got careless and dropped it in the horse’s water bucket. I have a new one, still the 6” x 9” because that’s all I can afford but I am not about to find myself without one.
The company is great to do business with and the device is assembled in this country.
Thanks. here is one that keeps popping up.
So I assume these would not be strong enough and hence can safely be used by a layman as they likely do not do much?
I thought they are likely just expensive lights (especially as one is run by 3 AA batteries??)
Thanks-I know I am looking for a magic wand…
(oops, I posted before the Equine light therapy post-- I see you have had success! I noticed the ones you use have a whole lot more lights packed together than the RevitaVet ones–they seemed pretty sparse…)
Thanks WIW, Interesting comparison of lights etc. from the two companies (And I will keep reading up on the science…)
"Gospel’s" Equine & Canine Medium Light Therapy Pad
9-1/2" X 12" (30.5cm X 24.1cm) and has 132 LEDs!
60 visible red (660nm) and 72 near-infrared (850nm)
Internal Timer turns pad off after recommended treatment time
vs.
Self-contained and stand-alone the TendonSaver operates on three “AA” alkaline batteries and DOES NOT need to be connected to the RevitaVet™ main system. The unit contains 60 visible red 650nm diodes.
Laser classes are based on output power and likelihood to injure in less than a second (in simple terms).
Sorry, but the references and research listed on the website are not even closely associated to the actual application or efficacy of their products. For example, they list a paper that used laser on mouse bone cells and then state the laser can help bone healing. One can not ever equate work done on a different species of cells done in-vitro to use in a living creature.
When companies list this as “research” it is clear “marketing” where somebody pulled random scientific literature to imply their product works. If this product truly treated a disease or condition it would be FDA regulated per federal law.
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Thanks for the explanation.
And I’m sorry right back at you BUT I’ve used this pad for many years with results.
The PROOF of those results was clearly evident when I developed not only cellulitis in one leg but also sepsis and spent three days in the hospital.
When I got home from the hospital my leg was still a swelled up painful F’ng mess.
I had an appointment to follow up with the doctor in seven (7) days.
I started using the Equine light therapy pad twice daily. A week later, at my doctor appointment, the doctor was very impressed that my leg had “healed so fast” and the swelling was nearly gone.
I said “gee whiz it must be that non-FDA approved red light therapy pad I bought for my horses that I’ve been using twice daily.” He pursed his FDA approved lips and never said another word.
I don’t give a flip who thinks the pad works or doesn’t work just because it isn’t “FDA approved”. If I only used “FDA approved” products , I would be in a wheel chair by now instead of only needing a cane.
I did not come on this thread to push anything at anyone. The question was asked and I answered it according to my success with myself my horses and my dogs————
The product I mention is American made. Customer service is not only great but they actually answer the phone, speak English, and don’t read from a script ++++++++
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Not trying to derail the thread, but does anyone know the difference between the According to Gospel light therapy and a Class 3b cold laser, like this one from 100x equine ?
They both seem to have diodes in the visible red (650-660 nm) and near-infrared (808-850 nm) range. One identifies as light therapy and the other laser therapy, but they seem awfully similar (other than shape, size, price, etc.). Are “light therapy” and “laser therapy” the same thing by different names, or are there real differences?
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I have a Class 3b 635 wavelength handheld laser; the beam emitted is diffused down to around Class 1 when it exits the device. Class 1 is like supermarket checkout lasers, and is not harmful to the eyes.
I’ve used it on my dogs and myself, after seeing how well my dog responded to laser therapy given at a vet practice (vet is a believer). It has seemed to provide relief to me, not so much at the time of a session as on the following day. I discussed this with my orthopedist, who told me that there’s been enough research that lasers work that he can believe it’s helped me.
The dogs like it well enough that, when I get out the device to use it on myself, a dog shows up and climbs in my lap for a session. I figure it must do something, because there’s plenty of lap time around here without having to submit to a laser treatment to get more, lol.
I haven’t tried it on a horse.
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Thanks just wanted to get feedback, and to lighten this up, the fact it can be used to possibly reduce wrinkles after I am done using it on horse is an added bonus.
I am feeling pretty desperate with a senior citizen horse and collateral ligament injury and (by chance ) tendency to get cellulitis in the good hind leg. At this point I am willing to be experimental (and it is not like the supplements are cheap.) I will follow up if I take the dive with my non scientific observations.
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I had one of the Gospel pads and used it on my horse’s stifle. She definitely liked it, and it helped to “warm her up” before exercise, but I am not sure it had any long term benefits. They aren’t wildly expensive, and it definitely won’t hurt.
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Do you mind sharing what brand of 3b laser you bought? Thanks.
Mine isn’t a commercially available brand, sorry. Have had it for at least several years.
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