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http://www.ivis.org/proceedings/geneva/2003/cohen3/ivis.pdf[/QUOTE]
I’m aware of RDC but my question was about pH and NSAIDs, not ulceration and NSAIDs.
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I’m aware of RDC but my question was about pH and NSAIDs, not ulceration and NSAIDs.[/QUOTE]
I didn’t say anything about pH & NSAIDS.
I said
hindgut acidosis doesn’t just come from high starch feeds. It can also be triggered by administration of NSAIDS
Which is supported by the article.
Whoops, wrong article to ailment!
I believe stress can throw off hindgut microflora balance as well, which can contribute to hindgut acidosis.
Which is still not an explanation of how NSAIDs directly affect hindgut pH. 
(AFAIK they do not)
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Which is still not an explanation of how NSAIDs directly affect hindgut pH. (AFAIK they do not)[/QUOTE]
LOL, I know, I was referencing a completely different “cause” of hindgut acidosis.
I posted the link to the article before my brain made the connection that it was referencing RDC and NSAIDS, not hindgut acidosis and NSAIDS. So, I’m not trying to say that NSAIDS affect hindgut pH.
But, its my understanding that hindgut acidosis doesn’t just come from high starch feeds. It can also be triggered by administration of NSAIDS
This was the comment I was wondering about.
Looks like you meant RDC, not hindgut acidosis, right?
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Still, yeah, nothing majikal about it. :)[/QUOTE]
I beg to differ. My mare suffered from hindgut acidosis, was lathargic and would only eat dried twigs or dead grass for a week. After one day of using EquiShure she started to bounce back and was her old self in a couple of days. Thank goodness my nutritionist knew what was going on because my (now former) vet just thought she had a mild virus.
I’m a believer!
I didn’t mean to imply that the product doesn’t work. Merely that it is fairly humble and pedestrian in the ingredients department.
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This was the comment I was wondering about.
Looks like you meant RDC, not hindgut acidosis, right? :)[/QUOTE]
:yes: I had my wires crossed!
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I didn’t mean to imply that the product doesn’t work. Merely that it is fairly humble and pedestrian in the ingredients department. :)[/QUOTE]
Ahhh…thanks for clarifying!
In my personal case, we tried everything to try and sort her tummy - probiotics, prebiotics, omeprazole, tums, everything. Saw pretty much no difference at all. Decided I might as well try the bicarbonate after reading some stuff, and in a couple of days her poos went from stinky cow like to almost normal. She has always been a very hard keeper and the diarrhea surely wasn’t helping, so once it stopped she just bloomed and gained about 50kg in two weeks.
I am feeding a table spoon in every meal; she has 6 meals so 6 table spoons.
I buy it at a regular supermarket and its pretty cheap.
Last month I ran out and she didn’t have it for 6 days. On the last day, she had cow poo again, so I’m convinced the bicarb is whats keeping her healthy.
My sheep guru advocates free choice baking soda for the sheep - along with their free choice minerals and salt block. It wasn’t clear to me what it’s supposed to do, but I keep it out in the barn and they consume small amounts of it periodically. The horses also have access to it, but I can’t recall seeing them consume it.
It will be interesting to hear how it works out for you.
FeedXL Newsletter #48 Feeding the off-the-track thoroughbred had what I thought was a good explanation regarding how long it takes for the digestive flora to adjust from a high grain (bad) to a forage based (good) diet. But, I think you may have to have a subscription - well worth it - to see it.
Anyone can view the free newsletters here, including …
http://feedxl.com/newsletters/15-keeping-the-hindgut-healthy.html
Equishure saved our pony’ life! Free ranging naturally kept guy who lived with his best buddies started getting ulcers at age 17—so bad that he would bite his stomach til it bled to try to kill whatever was hurting him. A vet explained hind gut acidosis and the effect of buffered sodium bicarbonate (equishure), and we started using it. Gave him several more seasons of zooming along the trail with his beloved mare. (He eventually succumbed to a different metabolic issue 😢)
