EquiShure = baking soda?!

I searched, but didn’t find exactly what I’m looking for, so if this is answered elsewhere, please feel free to direct me to the thread! :slight_smile:

Without the background story because we’d be here all day, I recently ordered Equishure for my mare. It came yesterday, and with it came a product insert (I ordered in via SmartPaks).

Ingredients:
Monoglycerides
Sodium Bicarbonate
Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil

Guaranteed Analysis:
Fat Min. 35%
Sodium Min. 25%

So…is Equishure essentially just baking soda blended with a solidified fat source to make a granular powder?

No, it also had monoglycerides, which are emulsifiers… LOL

I had no idea but I am glad I tried the baking soda route with my mare before spending money on Equishure. And it did the trick so she has been on it since!

[QUOTE=SCMSL;6932523]
No, it also had monoglycerides, which are emulsifiers… LOL[/QUOTE]

I thought the word “blended” took care of the monoglycerides! LOL! :wink:

I had no idea but I am glad I tried the baking soda route with my mare before spending money on Equishure. And it did the trick so she has been on it since!

I am thinking that if I see a difference in my mare on the EquiShure, I will just switch to baking soda and a probiotic.

How much baking soda do you feed?

The EquiShure recommends 10g/100kg of body weight so that’s about 55 grams for a 1000 lb horse. The SmartPak dose comes as 60 grams (which looks to be approximately 3 to 4 tablespoons). I realize that there are “other” ingredients in the EquiShure, but I was thinking the baking soda equivalent could be fed around 50 grams of baking soda.

Thoughts?

We gave baking soda to our jumpers in Brazil in the late 80’s. It was believed to be helpful but wasn’t very tasty. Maybe this is tasty baking soda :winkgrin:

[QUOTE=Discobold;6932534]
We gave baking soda to our jumpers in Brazil in the late 80’s. It was believed to be helpful but wasn’t very tasty. Maybe this is tasty baking soda :winkgrin:[/QUOTE]

I can vouch for it not being very tasty. I have acid reflux and ulcer issues myself, and we didn’t have any tums at home. I got severe heartburn one night after eating fried foods and drinking a beer…the only thing I had in the house to take that woudl work quickly was baking soda, so I mixed a tablespoon with warm water…OMG…BLECK! :eek: But, my mare will eat tablesalt in her feed, and baking soda is salty, so I think she’d eat it fine.

What is it for?

[QUOTE=Koniucha;6932550]
What is it for?[/QUOTE]

“Hindgut buffer to decrease the risk of hindgut acidosis in at risk horses…EquiShure acts to attenuate changes in hindgut pH that may result from fermentation of starches in the hindgut.”

^ From the EquiShure product information sheet.

Upon more digging:

Unfortunately, feeding
raw sodium bicarbonate to horses is ineffective because
of the anatomy of the gastrointestinal tract.
Ideally, the sodium bicarbonate should be protected
so that it is delivered to the hindgut intact. Kentucky
Equine Research, in conjunction with Balchem
Corporation, has recently developed a
protected sodium bicarbonate (PSB)a that survives
transit through the stomach and small intestine of
the horse.
From this research from KER.

Interesting…so, what protects it, the hydrogenated vegetable oil?

“Levels of sodium bicarbonate used to produce a metabolic alkalosis generally
range from 0.3 to 0.6 g/kg body weight.”

So, for a 1000 lb horse that would be about 136 grams of sodium bicarbonate.

1000 lb = 455 kg horse
.3g/kg = .3*455 = 136.5 grams

I believe it is coated or protected somehow to make sure the bicarb doesn’t get “released” until it’s in the hindgut, no?

Still, yeah, nothing majikal about it. :slight_smile:

I would rather approach hindgut acidosis by trying to prevent it in the first place… it happens because of excessive starch fermentation by hindgut bacteria, a result of which is lactic acid. If you don’t have too much starch in your horse’s diet, then that big change in the hindgut will be less likely to happen. Probiotics/digestive enzymes can help prevent acidosis while keeping the hindgut in balance.

I don’t know anyone who feeds baking soda, but I would think that if it weren’t coated, it may raise stomach pH if fed in a high enough amount. While this may help with preventing ulcers, the stomach is acidic for a reason and a pH change could affect digestion in the stomach.

In general, different areas of the body have particular pHs (is this the plural of “pH”? lol) for a reason. Hindgut acidosis is definitely a problem, but it’s usually a result of another problem (i.e. high NSC feed).

But if it works for you and your ponies, great! I would be curious as to what their coating is, but it seems that a coated sodium bicarb product would work differently than plain baking soda because of when it would begin to act in the body.

[QUOTE=deltawave;6932781]
I believe it is coated or protected somehow to make sure the bicarb doesn’t get “released” until it’s in the hindgut, no?

Still, yeah, nothing majikal about it. :)[/QUOTE]

That’s what they say. :smiley:

[QUOTE=Jamie.S;6932815]
I would rather approach hindgut acidosis by trying to prevent it in the first place… it happens because of excessive starch fermentation by hindgut bacteria, a result of which is lactic acid. If you don’t have too much starch in your horse’s diet, then that big change in the hindgut will be less likely to happen. Probiotics/digestive enzymes can help prevent acidosis while keeping the hindgut in balance.

I don’t know anyone who feeds baking soda, but I would think that if it weren’t coated, it may raise stomach pH if fed in a high enough amount. While this may help with preventing ulcers, the stomach is acidic for a reason and a pH change could affect digestion in the stomach.

In general, different areas of the body have particular pHs (is this the plural of “pH”? lol) for a reason. Hindgut acidosis is definitely a problem, but it’s usually a result of another problem (i.e. high NSC feed).

But if it works for you and your ponies, great! I would be curious as to what their coating is, but it seems that a coated sodium bicarb product would work differently than plain baking soda because of when it would begin to act in the body.[/QUOTE]

Understood. My mare had gastric ulcers, which we scope to diagnose, treated, and scoped to be sure they were healed. Since then, she is still NQR off and on for no apparent reason. This is an emperical trial to see if the EquiShure makes any difference. But if it did make a difference, I was looking to see if there was a “generic” that I could concoct on my own and save some $$$. :smiley:

But, its my understanding that hindgut acidosis doesn’t just come from high starch feeds. It can also be triggered by administration of NSAIDS, and I’m sure, a plethora of other things we don’t know about yet, as with every equine-related condition, LOL! :lol:

Very true, everything with horses is a delicate balance that can seemingly be upset by anything, no matter how many carefully thought out supplements we try to throw at them! :no: lol

How do NSAIDs change gut pH? :confused:

Your “raw” bicarbonate will be neutralized long before it reaches the hindgut. You will neutralize stomach acid. I imagine that all of the Equishure doesn’t make it unscathed, either.
If you Google “milkshakes” for horses you’ll get lots of info on people feeding baking soda. It isn’t a good idea.

1 Like

[QUOTE=deltawave;6932873]
How do NSAIDs change gut pH? :confused:[/QUOTE]

http://www.ivis.org/proceedings/geneva/2003/cohen3/ivis.pdf

[QUOTE=CrowneDragon;6932877]

If you Google “milkshakes” for horses you’ll get lots of info on people feeding baking soda. It isn’t a good idea.[/QUOTE]

Well, I’m not racing or doing any other sport that tests/has restricted “drugs” and I’m not administering gallons of water mixed with other ingredients via nasal tube, so I’m not overly concerned about orally feeding my horse a few tablespoons of baking soda.

[QUOTE=SuckerForHorses;6932885]
Well, I’m not racing or doing any other sport that tests/has restricted “drugs” and I’m not administering gallons of water mixed with other ingredients via nasal tube, so I’m not overly concerned about orally feeding my horse a few tablespoons of baking soda.[/QUOTE]

If you are trying to increase colonic pH, feeding a few tablespoons of baking soda isn’t going to do anything.