I have 3 horses on 3x day 3 to 4 scoops each time Equishure and it sure adds up $$…
I ran into this product (much cheaper) and was wondering what the difference is, shouldn’t this accomplish the same as Equishure?
Any thoughts? TIA
I have 3 horses on 3x day 3 to 4 scoops each time Equishure and it sure adds up $$…
I ran into this product (much cheaper) and was wondering what the difference is, shouldn’t this accomplish the same as Equishure?
Any thoughts? TIA
Its baking soda, probably cheaper to get that than the one under chemical name.
I give it free choice to my sheep & horses. Same with salt & mixed minerals. People say horses can’t seek it out/self treat, but they can. And mine have with plants, too. 🤔🤷🽔♀ï¸
Only difference seems to be “Encapsulation technology ensures targeted release directly in the hindgut.”
What that coating actually is on the powder, idk. I can’t find much info.
Baking soda will reduce ph right from the stomac, not somehow skip it and only work in the hindgut.
Thanks secuono, from my understanding regular baking soda will be active in the stomach but not make it into the hindgut to raise the PH, hence the micro encapsulation, so it makes it intact through the stomach to be released in the hindgut.
The process of micro encapsulation is taking the baking soda and coating or mixing it with a vegetable oil (palm or soy).
It’s just that the price tag for this encapsulation that KER Equishure adds to baking soda is really pretty high, hence I was looking for a wholesale baking manufacturer who encapsulates the baking soda for food processing.
Price on that 50lbs bag is sure a lot cheaper.
We had a thread here awhile ago about making your own equishure. Let’s see here…
https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/forum/discussion-forums/horse-care/322088-homemade-equishure
Some good discussion there that might help evaluate the product you found, or mix up your own
Waw, great, thank you!!
It would be very hard to evaluate this relative to Equishure on paper, as they both are proprietary processes, so there is little detail about the products available.
Both are delayed release products, and the delay can be accomplished either by slow erosion of an inactive layer to expose the active bicarb at a later point in the GI tract or by a functional coat that will release at a particular condition (typically increased pH in the GI tract for pharmaceutical products; I’m guessing temperature in the baking product).
As a pharmaceutical chemist, I would set up some experiments to compare the two under physiological conditions. Two beakers with dilute acid to mimic the stomach, add a dose of either Equishure or the Innovabake and stir while monitoring the change in pH. It might take some adjustments to figure out what an equivalent dose of the baking product would be, but mostly I would be interested in the time it took to reach the max pH to compare them. The experiment could be more involved with temperature adjustment to 38C, and using a simulated equine gastric fluid. (can you tell WFH is starting to get to me?)
My biggest concern with the baking product is that it might only release the bicarb at fairly high temps like during baking.
Thank you MissAriel, always good to get the thoughts of someone experienced in that field!
I understand what you are getting at. If I get the Innovabake, I will experiment as you explained.
I also found another company that offers an option to make buffered sod bi-carb at home, but it involves alfalfa pellets. I don’t understand why one can’t just topdress their pre-mix since it’s number 1 ingredient is micro-encapsulated sod bi-carb. I may have to give them a call.
I can’t see myself making 40lbs of alfalfa sod bicarb mix.
https://basicequinehealth.com/product/diy-pre-mix-pouches/
I also have a couple of horses on Equishure,so I am following.
Please keep us updated
Bumping this to see if the baking product was used and, if so, how it went!