Euthanasia, what do I need to know

I am going to second what the poster above me said.

You are not wrong if you can not handle being there. We all deal with this differently. You are still a great horse owner who loves your horse very much, even if you are not there for the final injection.

Love on her, give her all her favorite things. Let the vet sedate her and you can walk away to implode on your own, how you choose to deal with this.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is just imposing their theories on you.

On the topic of the other horses - When I put down my old horse, I was very worried about my one very herd bound mare. She is the type that if she can not totally see one of her barnmates, she is freaking out, so very dramatic. I was not looking forward to learning how long it would take her to get over the loss.

The horse was put down in the lawn, not in the horse’s area.
One at a time I lead the remaining horses out to graze on the lawn and sniff the body. Let them hang out until they were not interested (when they started dragging me around the yard to eat grass).
That mare took one sniff of the body and went to eating grass. Never so much as screamed for the lost horse.

Maybe you can ask a friend to help you with showing your geldings your mare’s body so they can know that she is gone.

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We just lost a wonderful old horse to fast growing bone cancer. I agree with what everyone has said here --only addition I have is if you are going to bury your horse, ask the excavator to come after the vet (at least an hour or two). Having unusual heavy equipment nearby can upset a horse.

I do second the sedation before. The horse we had belonged to my granddaughter (25) who wanted to be present when he passed. I think it would have been easier on her if the horse had been somewhat sleepy at the end. Instead, he was alive nuzzling her for another peppermint one moment, and then gone the next. She found that difficult.

Second, ask the vet to explain what will happen --this horse was my 6th in 60+ years of horse ownership --all with the same vet present. I knew what would happen. However, even though I did explain to GD, she had more of a “Disney” idea that her beloved horse would fold his legs and quietly lie down, closing his eyes. Instead the drugs took effect immediately. There was no time for whispered goodbyes as there had been for her dog a few years before. She was equally upset that his long time pasture mate nuzzled him and whinnied softly to him for sometime after (he was present as suggested above).

My GD faulted my vet for being “cold” --he’s been my vet and this horse’s vet for 25 years --even did his PPE many years ago. I told GD it’s hard on vets too lose long-time patients when they have spent years keeping them well.

I was ok with everything until the next day when I went to feed and made up five horse breakfast instead of four --I’d forgotten one was eating grass in a heavenly pasture where horses have wings and flies don’t.

GD took her favorite painting I’d done of her horse years ago (one of many) as he was handsome, and asked for a shadow box with his things in it. I’ve finished that now: halter, stall tag (she made it when she was 10), show number (he was always 432), a lock of tail neatly braided, and his last set of shoes that we had pulled when he could no longer be ridden. I even found the card that came with him she found him in the barn for her 10th birthday.

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Keep the better a day too soon than a day too late horseman’s mantra with you. It has gotten me thru all the inevitables with our creature’s shorter lifetimes. I don’t do well with suffering.

I’m sure a good vet will help you, but it’s best to fold the horse up while you can so the body can be moved easier.

hugs.

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I am so sorry.

I helped a friend a few months ago. There were 2 support people and we did not know each other which was actually good, weird at first but good. We all brought wine. We all arrived very early. We spent time reminiscing, feeding treats, and getting as much wine into our protege as possible (for 10am lol)

When the vet arrived he explained how things would go and we filled in details of things she might not expect. She decided how much or how little she wanted to observe at any time and the vet knew one of us was available if needed while the other comforted our friend.

I would highly recommend the 2-friend approach if possible.

Or, if you can’t stomach being there, don’t beat yourself up! Plan a goodbye with lots of treats and leave your horse in the hands of someone she trusts and who cares for them. It’s not so different than taking a horse to the vet and having someone else take them to the imaging room or having someone else deal with a vet emergency while you are away.

Horses understand being handled by other people and generally take vet visits in stride. Unless your horse can only be calm and trusting with the vet while in your hands, there is no real reason from the horse’s perspective for you to be there. We put a lot of, imo unnecessary, guilt on people for not being with their horses at the end when the horse may be served best otherwise :confused: this is your decision to make, not anyone else’s. You know your horse best. You know you best. You know your friends best.

If you want to be there, rally the troops. If you don’t, that’s ok too, rally the troops in a different way.

However you proceed - all the hugs to you ~~~~~

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I agree that you dont HAVE to be there for the final moment. I would ask for heavy sedation and say my goodbyes. The horse hitting the ground can be distressing - some horses crumple but others stagger a bit and fall more heavily.

I was there for my old horse, but my vet’s protocol was that you gave her the lead rope and stepped back for the last injection so she could guide the horse down. I turned away but the sound was gut wrenching.

Be there for her while she is aware. There is no need to torture yourself by watching the end if it will only distress you further.

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I’m sorry you have this in front of you, Cowgirl. Many years ago I lost a great horse to laminitis after struggling through a few recurrences and recoveries. It’s heartbreaking.

Agree that you can decide to be there or not. And with other advice up thread. If you are having your mare buried on site, you might look at this thread about folding a horse. I wish we had known this at the time as my DH had a difficult time burying my horse–it’s not easy. Some other, related, comments as well on the necessary process of dealing with horse’s body.

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I want to add - if you are having your horse buried on your property, ask around to get a good recommendation.
The gentleman we used was not a horse person but he understood and though moving a not alive 1000 pound animal is not a delicate process, he did it so carefully. He told us what he was going to do, and when, so we could either not be there or be there. How he set the body in the hole was like he was putting an infant down for a nap. So carefully.
He even asked if we had a preference for which way the body was put into the hole.

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The horse does not know that anything in particular is going on. There is no need for you to be there at the time. Only if It is important for you.

Personally I do want to be there, not “for” my animal who doesn’t know, but “beside” my animal, for me. In my case I have found it comforting to witness that this is truly the end point of their journey.

But that is not how it feels for everyone. You do not need to be there if you would take no comfort.

Again, the animal does not know. I don’t believe it matters to them.

That’s just my belief.

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I’ve BTDT for 4 of mine & chose to be with them with 1 exception.
That horse was at the vet hospital & vet had to delay my euth appt due to an emergency surgery.
I was waiting with my horse & got the distinct impression he didn’t need me there.

I’ve not had the luxury of being able to bury any of mine on my acreage.
2 were donated to the vet college, 2, resulting from a trailer accident, went to landfill.
But in my heart, I know what’s left is not Them, just a shell. And I’m at peace with that.

For the euths I attended, I requested sedation first & was able to hold the head of that first one after vet students lowered him.
The passing itself was peaceful, though I understand the agonal breaths & residual tremors can be upsetting.
Once the vet assured me he was gone, it was sad, but I was glad I’d been there.
You have to do what feels right for you.

Wishing you & your mare a peaceful passage :pray:

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One tip I’ve repeated on COTH – don’t talk about the euthanasia with anyone that you do not already know for sure will support your decision. You can talk about it here on COTH.

You don’t have to justify, persuade and convince other people with all of the reasons that you understand and they do not.

You don’t have to listen to all of their uninformed arguments against, that diminish symptons and reasons that you know are making your animal’s life hopeless and perhaps miserable. And hear all of the unrealistic suggestions for alternatives.

Among other things that people may suggest to you, making it harder for you, therapeutic riding centers, rescues and vet schools are not the dumping ground for horses that owners can no longer provide with quality of life. These are so often brought up as if they are a magic wand solution. Even by vets! They are rarely ever a realistically possible outcome. Just mentioning that.

You are in my thoughts with this step in your horse journey.

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This seems to help some horses, but I have a couple that were much more anxious than I believe they would have been, had the horse just been gone. My uncle had only two horses at home, euthanized one and let the other watch and see the body. The second horse became very agitated, and coliced and had to be euthanized the next day.

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I am so sorry that you are going through this. It’s the hard part of horse ownership…

If you don’t think you can stand being there for it, that is totally fine. You do what’s best for the horse but you need to take care of yourself too.

I was there every time for my horses, because I felt I owed it to them, and because it was closure for me. But everyone is different.

As others have said, the worst part for me was to see my beloved horse go down, even if the vet was guiding her down.
Then the fact that their eyes remain open after they are gone. For my last mare, the vet (who was as upset as I was, and was just coming from another euthanasia) covered her eye with a towel. She also snipped some hair and took the halter off for me, while my friends were comforting me ( Good friends who are also horsemen are great to have around at this time.)
Years ago, when mare was in her prime, I decided to just go ahead and make a horse hair bracelet with her tail hair. I am glad I did.

Lastly - make sure you have a plan for disposing of the body. My vet gave me the number of a kind man who takes horses to bury them on his property.

((Hugs)) to you.

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I’m so sorry you are having to deal with this. I’m older and have horses for 50 years. Over those years I’ve lost a few. You absolutely do not have to be there at the end. There is something to be said for having the last visual memory of being with your horse a happier one. Do NOT let people talk or bully you into “being there” if you are not 100% comfortable with it. And if the vet gets pushy about you being there and you have doubts, find another vet. Sending along some hugs.

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This was an important thing that we discussed with friend before her horse went down as well as telling her that we would not be able to close the eyelid (she still tried lol, but sort of shrugged it off, “Oh. They tell the truth. Whaddayaknow. Learned something today.”

I also let her know that after listening to the heart, the vet would also touch the eyeball to make sure there was no reaction. I remembered the first time I saw a vet do that and it was a bit of a shock. Friend was grateful for the heads up.

In terms of snipping hair for a memento, there is absolutely no reason not to do that well ahead of time. Unless you’re planning on taking the entire tail, the horse will not miss a chunk of it and that may be easier on the person unless that ritual is needed for closure.

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The important part of animal ownership is being a good caring owner during their life, not during the last few moments. You have done this in spades so don’t feel guilty for not being there at the end. I know how you feel - when my heart horse that was suffering from horrible laminitis and founder I got a friend to be there and I had to leave. I just could not handle it and I know how you feel.

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I agree with this. I’ve had two euthanized and the first one I left the property before he was put down because I just couldn’t deal. I said goodbye to him while he was still standing, and then I got in the car with my mom and we left (sobbing).

The second horse was my absolute heart and soul horse. I saw him born and I cannot due justice to the love I had for that animal here in this post. He broke his hind leg badly. Like, you could tell from the driveway it was broken when he was on the other side of the pasture. It was such a shock to me (and him) that I was running on pure adrenaline from the moment I found him until he was in the ground. When the vet arrived, she told me she DIDN’T want me there with them due to the nature of his injury and the fact that when he went down it wasn’t going to be pretty because he was going to lose his balance on that broken leg and…yeah. Not the last memory she wanted me to have of my horse. So, I went into the barn where my remaining gelding was freaking out in his stall, and I waited until given the “all clear” to come out and take off my boy’s halter and say my final goodbye. Crazily, he had one breath left in him (a reflex, I was reassured by the vet) that he decided to deploy JUST as I was taking the halter off his head! Scared me to death! LOL! I thought some Pet Cemetery shenanigans were afoot! But it was fitting. I saw him take his first breath when he was born, and I saw his last.

I did bring my other gelding out to sniff him once all was quiet before he was buried (which was very quick thanks to my neighbors having the equipment and being home to do it). I think it was very traumatic for my surviving gelding as he’d been raised with both of these now-departed horses and was left completely alone. I sold the farm a month later and moved him to a boarding facility, so he wasn’t alone for too long, but he definitely was a sad boy for that month.

Most horses are used to others handling them and are okay with that. Unless the horse has a strong aversion to the vet for some reason (my horses always loved the vet), I wouldn’t worry about being there right when the deed is done. Now, for a dog or cat? Yes. I think that’s a different level of bond (especially a dog, IMO), but even then, you have to do what is right for YOU. The animal will be at peace. You have to live on.

Hugs to you! It’s never easy, no matter how many times you go through it.

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Do not feel compelled to be there. I had to put my beloved mare down a year ago (laminitis) and it was heart wrenching but I wanted to see her released from pain. I sat with her body after but the man who came to dig her grave wouldn’t let me watch him put her in it.

I also was with a friend’s horse when he was euthanized this year (EPM complications). My friend couldn’t watch but she loved on her boy until the end.

In both cases, the vets and vet techs were extremely kind and compassionate. The horses were treated with respect and honor. They felt love right up until the end. If it’s too much for you, don’t feel you need to be there and know that by ending your horse’s pain you are making the kindest choice for them.

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I’m so sorry you are having to go through this - its heartbreaking. Don’t feel badly if you don’t want to be there, you need to do what’s best for you.

I had to put my daughter’s horse down at the vet clinic, he had gone downhill rapidly and was in tremendous pain. She was out of town, so couldn’t say goodbye but I went to make peace with the decision (there wasn’t really a choice). He was on so much pain medication, he was unaware that I was there. I wasn’t emotionally able to stay for the euth, but the vet and a friend who was disposing of the body, assured me they would lay him down respectfully and be with him when he passed. The vet called after to tell me he’d gone peacefully and with dignity.

Many hugs to you and your sweet horse, it’s never easy…

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I completely agree with Fivestrideline - you do not have to be there. Assuming your horse is accustomed to being handled by others, your absence probably won’t be noticed. But if you are there, crying, stressed, upset, will that be noticed? Probably. Think about what would be the kindest option for your horse - a bunch of relatively emotionless strangers handling her, or you handling her, but noticeably upset?

It’s different with dogs - most dogs are not as accustomed to being handled by strangers, and most people do euthanasias at a vet clinic, which is already very stressful for them (although there are lots of at-home euthanasia options which I encourage everyone to look into). So for dogs, I think it does matter (now, is it better we be there, but crying, or absence, without intense emotions? I think we probably have to evaluate each situation case by case).

I very much appreciate the situation you’re in. I’ve been thinking about it myself as I may be in the same boat. I’m very close with my horse, and I think I’ll be a blubbering mess if/when we have to do it. I don’t know if I can hold it together enough to be there with her, and am not sure if my blubbering will upset her at all, or even be noticed. I know horses are very attuned to our emotions, but it’s not clear how easily upset they would be to see their human upset (like it clearly would with a dog).

Regardless, you do not need to be there if it would be too much for you. You have my deepest sympathies.

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Here is a bit of practical advice …

As has been mentioned, you need a plan for what happens to the body afterward, a plan made and scheduled beforehand. It can be hard making those phone calls, setting dates & times, but just think of it as part of the process, as with so many other things you have done for your horse over the years.

If you want burial on your property, know that there are some regulations in many areas because large animals buried in the ground can have effects on the ground water. However if this is the first one on your property, I wouldn’t worry about that too much. If the grave(s) aren’t visible from another property or the road I might pass on the whole drama with regulations, a drama which I think is sometimes over-rated. What they don’t know … but anyway just a heads up.

There are cremation services if that suits you better. But not as many for horses as for small animals. You need one that will pick up, so it may depend on what is available in your area (or your horse’s area if he doesn’t live with you).

Cremation for a horse yields such an enormous package of ash/etc. (not necessarily all your one horse) that you might prefer a simpler small box of ash and some tail hairs. These are options the service will discuss with you. The price varies significantly to get more back.

Which brings us to the next ‘what do I need to know’ point –

You need to plan in a fair amount of detail where, when, what else and who else needs to be there, as well as how.

Where will the body fall, how long will it be there, do you want to cover it and with what, how accessible is that location to whatever will move the body its final rest. Who must be there and when (pick-up service, backhoe), and who do you just want to be there for support. So that is a lot of setting dates/times and gathering necessary things.

If you need a lot of ancillary services or assistance, and/or your horse is not located close to the services you want/need, euthanizing a horse can turn into a coordination effort like a community picnic. Hopefully it won’t be that complicated.

My last horse’s home barn didn’t allow burial on the property, and was (surprisingly) a bit squeamish about the euth taking place there. Even out of sight of anyone who was not involved. So my initial idea of letting him go peacefully in back of his own barn, with a cover over him until a pick-up service could come, became increasingly awkward. Especially sensitive was the time the body would be there until pick-up, even covered and out of sight. Would never have guessed they would have this outlook. They had many horses on a large property and of course lost a few over the years. But they were remarkably not helpful or prepared for a boarder euth.

In addition, the barn was too far away for the pick-up service I wanted. After calling vets for references (some had some, some didn’t), scouring the internet, etc., I ended up with a different plan.

Early in the morning I trailered my horse 25 miles to a vet clinic who was in the pick-up range and was agreeable to euth, and to allow the body to stay in place, covered, waiting for pick-up. My horse was totally agreeable to load & go, he always enjoyed an outing. Fortunately the weather was a very pleasant day. I was prepared to spend time with him before the euth with peppermints and his favorite scritches and chat.

That’s how it finally worked out. I was very grateful to the accommodating clinic.

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