Article discusses a breeding program at Peregrine Farms:
And… here’s a list of the breeder’s thoughts on eventing stallions:
I know nothing about this topic but… am curious to hear what you think of the thought processes involved. Also whether any of your fave stallions are/are not on the list (and whether you think it was right to include/not to include them).
I know Matt and it is a nice article.
It isn’t all about the right stallion…it about matching the right stallion with the right mare (as he says). The reason his “book” is huge is that what may be the right stallion for one mare may not be for a different mare. Then you add in all the other factors and personal preferences of the breeder and rider. (then set aside getting the foal on the ground healthy, and grow it up for several years while it constantly tries to kill itself (they all do)–breeding is TOUGH).
But he is absolutely right. The breeders today…myself included…are focused not just on movement or jump…but keeping the gallop of our mares. If the mare doesn’t have a gallop I love…I do not breed her. I had a LOVELY filly out of a very good TB mare of mine…she is a great mover and jumper but didn’t get her mama’s gallop. I didn’t repeat that cross even though the filly turned out lovely. She will make a nice 2* horse…but not a 4*. Next foal out of that mare…he has it all. That is a cross I may repeat and I’m expecting his 3/4 sibling this spring (and am crossing everything that it is a filly).
Only had time to skim it quickly but it looks like a really nicely planned program, in my opinion, and the book is a lovely resource that they were very kind to share! I just “flipped” through it quickly but am looking forward to having time to go through it more careful. It included a few stallions that I’m not as familiar with. I appreciate that it seems to offer a lot of options about where to find semen because for some of these stallions it can be quite difficult.
I haven’t looked carefully at all the stallions but I was glad to see Jaguar Mail included! I’m not nearly so knowledgable about eventing breeding but when we were looking at young jumpers several years ago I did actively look for Jaguar Mail offspring as I really like him a lot. If I were breeding my mare like I’d wanted to this spring he would be a front runner.
That was interesting to look through! I don’t breed but would really like to breed one in the future. Now I’m completely wasting time at work doing test matings on Sporthorse-Data with the mare I want to breed.
The one horse that I’m sort surprised he left out is Rather Well, the Canadian TB. I’m also kind of surprised that he left out Cozymyn.
Does anyone know if Cozymyn is still breeding?
Matt does good and very thorough research, so there must be reasons for these two omissions. But I’d like to understand why they were omitted.
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The one horse that I’m sort surprised he left out is Rather Well, the Canadian TB. I’m also kind of surprised that he left out Cozymyn.
Does anyone know if Cozymyn is still breeding?
Matt does good and very thorough research, so there must be reasons for these two omissions. But I’d like to understand why they were omitted.[/QUOTE]
He probably just hadn’t gotten any information on them yet.
I know I couldn’t find anything available about Cozymyn other than he is the sire of Cold Harbor…so do not know if he is still available.
wow… this is fantastic. What a wonderful resource.
According to the FEI, Cozymyn is also the sire of John William’s 3* horse Sweepea Dean.
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According to the FEI, Cozymyn is also the sire of John William’s 3* horse Sweepea Dean.[/QUOTE]
yes but not much help to breeders if we can’t find him.
Did a bit more browsing through and I’m surprised Coconut Grove isn’t mentioned. I believe he is still available frozen. I’m not sure if he has bred many event horses but he is a TB with an impressive jumping record. I wouldn’t guess he would improve movement a whole lot but would seem to be a good option as a source of blood and jump.
Definitely looking forward to continuing to read through in more depth.
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Did a bit more browsing through and I’m surprised Coconut Grove isn’t mentioned. I believe he is still available frozen. I’m not sure if he has bred many event horses but he is a TB with an impressive jumping record. I wouldn’t guess he would improve movement a whole lot but would seem to be a good option as a source of blood and jump.
Definitely looking forward to continuing to read through in more depth.[/QUOTE]
This also surprised me (but then I am biased because I have a Coconut Grove baby 
). I suppose in the absence of either an eventing record of his own or evidence of successfully eventing progeny it’s hard to say whether he’ll make good eventers…OTOH, considering the limited availability for NA event breeders of TB stallions that have been successful in sport, I would have thought he’d warrant a mention.
I don’t think this is a finished product, and more stallions will be added. Hence some we think are “missing” are probably just in work.
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