Evi and Tanya Strasser provisionally suspended by Canada due to allegations of "misconduct" in alleged horse abuse

Great post and a healthy dose of perspective.

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And now guess where Evi Strasser was coming from :pensive:

I would not say I was pissing into the wind or whatever other insults may emerge. Just sharing my opinion… and some cold, hard facts about DH.

Why thank you, Manni - for telling me I do not really care about the welfare of horses. :wink: I guess working for them for all these decades in the barns and arenas and on the backside was just for all the fabulous money and fame to be had… instead of actually caring and all that drivel. Having my heart lifted - and broken… over and over again… definitely shows that I do not care. /s

That was sarcasm - just in case it was not obvious.

Very well said. Thank you.

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Apparently if you “Like” a post on FB you also support animal abuse…

DH has been after Janet Foy for awhile now.

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So you would pledge support to somebody accused of animal abuse? If I am an intimate friend and know exactly that this did not happen I might…. Other wise I would stay quiet and wait what will happen. And a judge should not really be an intimate friend of a rider….

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Hitting the “like” button on FB is hardly a pledge of support.

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Well not sure how you use the like button, but I think about it before I like something….

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Then you put considerably more research, thought, and care than the majority of FB users. Most FB users aren’t researching all of someone’s posts to see if they support all of them, or even reading in depth. A LIKE is not a pledge of support.

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Well she is a 5 star judge….but ok, if you classify her like that… ok…

What are you talking about?

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Well according to your posts she might belong to the majority of FB users who put their like anywhere without reading the text….

maybe I misunderstood you completely….

**Where do you see that Janet Foy pledged support of animal abuse? **

Have you seen people’s responses to FB posts? They barely read them. People aren’t going to look at a post, scroll through all that person’s previous posts and history, look them up, then hit “like.”

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One might expect a high-ranked judge in the sport to read a little more clearly on a post that talks abuse and disgruntled employee and suspension and whatnot, and maybe hold off on hitting that like button until further information is available. That’s not a stretch to think someone of that stature within the sport could be smart enough to not automatically hit like on such a subject that has anything at all to do with the sport.

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Honestly likes on SM mean just about nothing. It could mean your finger slipped. Most of us don’t think it through that much when we are scrolling fast. It’s not something to over analyze. Sometimes people do it to track the discussion. It’s meaningless

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Ok, so now we’re jumping to her finger just happening to slip on Evi’s post and likes are completely meaningless anyway.

A lot of people in advertising and monetising of social media accounts would beg to differ on your second point.

They may be meaningless to you, but they are far from meaningless.

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I accidentally like crap all the time when scrolling.

Sentencing someone as pro animal abuse based off a FB like is ridiculous.

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That’s just nuts and incorrect. The profit margin of young horse sales is made when European-breds get exported to the US, and the ones making the money are the clever US horse traders who sell $12K horses to their US amateur clients for $80K and up. All European breeders know this. US amateurs fueling the market abroad to raise prices beyond the pale instead of investing in their own breeds.

So, no-one is getting rich like they are in THE USA selling horses to lady amateurs and teenagers.

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Vets are middle-(wo)men in the industry serving multiple sides, most of all (one would hope) the horses themselves. If horses could pay for their vets, then the vets would speak out for them. But if Eli and Tanya Strasser pay the bills, or their clients pay the bills, then the horses are at the mercy of the vet being courageous enough to speak up against the bill-payers. That takes something. I would hope that the vets and the judges can, as they should, be getting the training to help reform the industry from within.

Help
Reform
This
Industry

that they benefit from. The vets are badly needed in this.

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So horses are a dime a dozen in Germany? Break one, use one, blow one’s mind and just sell it on or toss it to another rider?

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No sure about this, it’s a very well developed system.

I was looking for a 7 to 10 year old horse with placings in the M-level and potential for S- level.
It was supposed to pass a PPE and rideable by an AA… So far I have not been able to find one…

I think the system works like this:

a breeder breeds a horse.
either he sells it to a professional foal raiser as a foal or he raises it himself.
With 3 years if he is lucky and it is healthy he gives it to a professional horse starter. Then it is advertised on Marketplaces… some go to auctions, if they are placed in YH classes the price goes up if not usually AAs buy them as low level AA horses.
The others go to professional stables where they are produced for the US market. They learn upper level movements, show a couple of times and as soon as they are ready they get picked up by the US professionals with European connections…
Some get sold as wash outs to European low level AAs some are elite Prospects for the top riders…

So when buying a horse as a European, you have to buy a foal or maybe if you are lucky a three year old…

It’s a system which is a little more developed then you painted it….

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