Exciting trot

Yesterday must have been just a thrilling day if you were a horse living here~! All of them were chasing/playing and showing off. Recently, i moved three of my mustangs, (who now are learning how to lead in a halter and get their feet handled), into a larger corral and was able to see them move more freely. One 3yr old mare did the most amazing thing…and i want to know what to call it… She trotted more up and down than forward…she hung in the air!

I’ve read, but not experienced, that a horse either has a natural ability (structure i suppose) to suspend or to extend. Also read that it’s basically one strength of gait more than the other, due to conformation. So, if she’s hanging in the air like that, will she not have much of an extended trot?

It sounds like you’re describing passage. You can search “dressage passage” on youtube to see it. Many horses that have a lovely passage also have very good extensions. I don’t think they are mutually exclusive.

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I agree, the two are related. In the training sequence I follow, you start collecting and lengthening, and slowly work up to the true extended trot. The true extended trot requires the horse to be able to collect and then move out at full speed with the shoulder girdle lifted.

Passage and piaffe are ultra collected movements that typically aren’t fully attained until later, but people do teach the beginning of piaffe fairly early to improve the gaits overall.

The thing to remember is that these are all natural movements that most fit healthy horses will offer at play when they are sufficiently excited. My own Paint mare does a gorgeous passage, floats above the ground. The catch is that she only does the passage once a year, for about 5 minutes, when I first let her out on the field with the herd for her annual pasture vacation. Otherwise we really can’t get the impulsion out of her in a controlled situation.

So the big challenge with training these gaits under saddle is how to get the impulsion for these developed gaits out of a horse that is calmly following your instructions, not losing his mind with excitement.

If you are seeing suspension in your horse’s trot gaits, that’s a good sign for dressage. The extended trot should also have a moment of suspension, it isn’t a flat racing trot. They go together.

I don’t think that suspend and extend are antithetical.

Are you perhaps thinking about extend and collect?

It’s important to keep in mind that the top international dressage horses these days are Warmbloods who are both bred and trained to showcase an exaggerated extended trot which is not possible for most horses (even most Warmbloods) and is arguably pushed to the extent of being unbalanced. There is a corresponding diminished focus on correct collected work.

If you want to see another kind of horse, you might be interested in looking for videos of Iberian horses, that is Andalusian, Lusitano, and crosses. You might find some interesting videos in Portugese and Spanish Working Equitation competition, which has an exciting trails obstacle speed component and also a dressage phase.

These are horses for whom.collection is factory installed, and who have varying natural gaits. They will never move like a spider legged high end WB but they can absolutely do a correct extended trot.

I suggest Iberians as a reference point because they are smaller and more compact than WB, but also because Iberian blood from Spanish horses was the foundation of the mustang population from the 1500s to the 1800s. Over the late 19th and 20th century, the feral Western horses got mixed with a lot of settler horses, draft and TB and ranch horse. In isolated places like the Kiger Reserve in Oregon, the Iberian blood is more obvious.

So if you have nice mustangs, chances are they will have some Iberian characteristics, and those will provide a good reference point for what is possible in a compact, collected, athletic, smaller horse.

If you’ve never seen Portuguese/Spanish Working Equitation, I bet you will love it!
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Many years ago i went to Portugal to borrow a bitch to breed to my dog. While there i met a couple of dogs that were from her first litter. One of the women who owned the young male also trained Portuguese horses and invited me to her stable to meet and watch the next day. They didn’t look like much until they got under her and then OMG! Their manes and tails were all put-up so i didnt’ see them with flowing locks, nor in fancy tack, but i watched her work a young stallion and a majestic older gelding. I also got to watch her husband track the dog…

i need to find that article about the mutually exclusive body type to do suspended and extended gaits…gimme a bit

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Found the article: https://horsesport.com/magazine/health/dressage-conformation/

“In general terms, the mechanics of the gaits (in particular piaffe, passage or extended trot) are affected by the differences in ilium/femur angulation. The very thing that makes extension easier usually precludes a superior ability to collect and vice versa. Perhaps having a flatter ilium side allows for cadence with little or no forward movement without stress while detracting somewhat from the suspension we praise in extended trot. Likewise, it may be the slightly more sloped ilium that facilitates brilliant extension, but hinders the ability to sustain piaffe and passage without the tendency to lose the rhythm.”

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It would have been nice if the article actually included confirmation photos of the two horses being compared.

Note also that the article is not saying horses in general can either only extended or collect. The article is focusing on one ratio in the hip angles as a variable in extension versus collection. The article also points out that this one ratio is not at all the whole picture.

If you are really interested in functional conformation and angles of bones, you may enjoy Deb Bennett’s work.

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