Exercises to help rider keep a hold of her reins

I have an adult student who has the annoying habit of letting go of her reins over fences. I used to think the horse was pulling the reins out of her hands, but last week it was obvious she let go of one rein on take off for no apparent reason.

Horse is frustratingly fine with this and tends to just try to find the next jump.

I had thought of giving her some toonies to hold while riding, but she says they wouldn’t be enough motivation.

Rider also tends to open her fingers hacking. I likely say “fingers” about 30 times a lesson. I don’t think she is conscious that she is doing it (it’s not that she thinks she is being softer, it just seems to happen)

I recently changed reins and it made a huge difference in me holding reins. I am not currently jumping, but doing dressage. I have a habit of not closing my fingers and the very first day with the new reins it was almost cured. Turns out that the reins where too wide for my hands. I have tiny hands and the width of the reins where wider than space in my fingers. Therefore the reins were over my finger joint and it was very hard for me to keep my fingers closed. I hope that makes sense.

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Great suggestion about the reins - also, has she used rubber reins? (I find laced reins can be a bit more slippery, and easier to let slide through your hands.)
Weird question, but does the rider want to improve this flaw? The fact that she says that the toonies wouldn’t be enough “motivation” makes me think that she perhaps isn’t, but I could be reading that wrong. A rider has to want to fix things first and foremost. Is this habit making it dangerous in any way? If so, maybe it would be “motivation” enough to say that until she’s willing to make an effort to fix the issue, that her jumping time may be compromised?
If it’s not dangerous, then… different reins? Perhaps a piece of coloured yarn tied at the correct length would help provide a visual. Maybe tie the reins in a knot at the right length?

When I had loose fingers, my trainer had me put a piece of vet wrap around the rein. If I dropped it I lost my stirrups for the rest of the lesson, no matter what we were doing. She had an older lady bring $20.00 bills and if she dropped them, trainer got to keep them. Didn’t take us long to fix. I couldn’t walk and the other lady was going broke.

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I like the no stirrup punishment idea.

I think she does want to fix the issue, but doesn’t realise she is doing it. She was riding for years without lessons and so had lots of time to develop bad habits. It doesn’t make it dangerous, but she wants to show, and this isn’t going to help her be competitive.

I used to do this…though I think probably not to this degree. Anyway, I got to hold small rocks every time I rode with my instructor. The first time I dropped the rocks a few times, and I was asked, ever so innocently, if I was wearing earrings. That was enough motivation for me, and I held the rocks in all but the most dire circumstances. (I was probably 17 and he sounded pretty serious…so.) I’m assuming this woman wouldn’t actually agree to hold her earrings, so it might be an empty threat for her. You might try a more creative “punishment” every X times she drops a rock, she has to bring a bottle of wine or brownies or put a dollar in a jar.

The other thing that helped a student of mine was to get some video/photo of the offending problem. If she’s not doing it on purpose, it’s possible that seeing on video how bad it really is might motivate her to change. On the other hand, is it possible she just doesn’t really care enough to put the effort in to change the issue? Couldn’t tell from your post.

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I had this problem when I started re-riding again. it is one of those habits you can develop if you ride one horse that is well-atuned to you, maybe on light contact, maybe western, when the rein can just lie across your hand. Obviously a big problem if you want to ride on contact, or jump.

It’s possible that letting the rein fall is what the rider is doing rather than following with her hand. Maybe she needs to work on following with the hand in the two point over the jump?

It’s also possible her hands are a bit weak or arthritic. I definitely have less of a grip now on things than I used to, though I can certainly close my hands on a rein when I need to! But a friend who broke her hand a few years ago can’t actually make a first with one of her hands at all.

A big question to ask a rider with a persistent flaw is: what do you feel you are achieving with that flaw? For instance, I was having problems falling into a chair seat. When I told my coach that actually I was trying to drop my heel to feel more secure especially when maresy was threatening to buck (a bit like a western saddle bronc rider), coach showed me how to drop my thigh into the saddle instead which worked to secure my seat a lot more, and helped me stop resorting to chair seat at every emergency.

Ask your student what feels “right” about riding with open hands. She may find that riding with open hands feels like she is being “light” or “soft” or “kind,” and making a strong fist feels like she is being “heavy” or “hard” or “cruel.” In that case, she needs to learn how you take kind but clear contact and follow the mouth of the horse without balancing on the reins.

Finding out why it feels “right” to her might help her get over it.

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My trainer also uses the rock method, though I’m not sure what the punishment is. Her rocks are rather pretty–polished blue stones of some sort–and easy to find if dropped. We keep joking that she should market them.

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A Freejump collar! (Or a DIY version… :slight_smile: )

http://www.freejumpsystem.com/en/products-horse-riding/p/horse-equipment/le-nouveau-collier-en/

I thought you were my trainer’s alter until you said loonies :p. I also have this habit, down to dropping the reins over jumps, and I’m sure it drives my trainer nuts having to remind me all the time. For me it’s 100% bad habit (though one of my hands is messed up and closing completely is physically more difficult for me), but I have no delusions that my horse appreciated it though he is used to it now.

I can’t explain but understand what she means about motivation. It’s not that I wouldn’t like to fix the problem, but it almost feels like a lost cause. And there are a hundred other things I’m also trying to do simultaneously!

I got rubber reins because I thought it would help, though I’m not sure it does. I recently rode in thinner web reins and that actually seemed to help more.

I did this when I started jumping fences. Trotting or cantering around the corner, I’d have a lovely soft contact. As soon as the horse started to lift over the fence, I completely and 100% dropped my reins, leaving me scrambling on the backside to stop or turn. It was my thought I was being soft, I was terrified of popping the horse in the mouth. My trainer used a crop on top of my thumbs as a “reminder” to keep my fingers closed. If I was holding the crop, I typically couldn’t drop the reins entirely.

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I find more riders use too loose a hand more than too tight. Rainbow reins have helped some of my loose fingered riders. The visual helps (you MUST keep your hands on the red) Also explaining that "good hands " comes from a strong seat, not loose fingers

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Tie a knot in the reins and make the rider hold the reins in front of the knot. That may help. I would stop the jumping until the problem is fixed. She needs to have control of her hands and body before she jumps.

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Make her do something immediately after the jump that requires reins. A tight turn to the next jump, a halt, a transition to trot. I used to drop my reins, but I could pick them up again before the second jump in a one stride combination. We didn’t do anything specific to fix it, but I did stop doing it as my horse got more confident jumping - which doesn’t seem to be relevant in your case.

Like many other people in this thread, I seized up when I first started reading, thinking, “Oh no, my worst nightmare that someone has started a COTH thread about me has come true!” Then I realized you were in Canada!

I often have this problem as well. Just out of curiosity, does she carry a crop? Does she have a problem with dropping it? I will say that I have gotten better than when I was a dead adult beginner, I’d often drop a crop because my grip was so slack. Having her carry one might be helpful.

Does she have any other issues? Sometimes not using enough leg can lead to being too soft with contact for fear of making the horse slow down or break. Of course, this is an ineffectual solution but might be part of the mentality.

Definitely try rocks. Someone mentioned colored rocks so they’re easy to find. I never had to hold them as a hunter/eq rider but when I started doing western horsemanship in college I would drop my non rein hand. The rock helped me to remember to hold my elbow at 90 degrees.

I never had an issue dropping my reins, but I didn’t close my fingers all the way from years of owning a very light horse. In college my coach told me to pretend I was holding the body of a baby bird in my hand with its head in the space between my pointer finger and thumb. If you open your hand you drop the bird and if you squeeze it too tight…well…you get the idea. I liked her idea. It’s stuck with me for years and helped me to have a more educated hand.

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I have very stiff elbows and find that sometimes I let the reins get long instead of relaxing and moving my elbows. This happens on the flat and over fences and tends to be my right hand more than my left hand.

Replace (knot the real reins) reins with one strand of baling twine as reins. Rider will pay closer attention to the thin string. If I had a student who kept losing reins over jumps…I wouldn’t consider her ready to be jumping!! Reins are rather essential to safe jumping!!

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Knots in the reins, rainbow reins, hold them like driving reins, hold a crop across the thumbs (harder to drop the reins if thumb and first finger are closed)…

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I like the idea of having her hold the reins like driving reins. It has been a while since I have used that trick, and not sure if I ever tried with her.

She can hold a crop when hacking, but we rarely do as her horse is a whip shy ex race horse. I think she holds it more with her index finger as she never seems to drop it.

I am not sure why I should stop her from jumping. She doesn’t lose her position when she drops her hand, and her horse doesn’t really care. Tighter turns do help, but only when we are doing the tighter turns. She’s an adult who jumps for fun and recreation. Her behaviour isn’t hurt her horse…just annoying me and will make showing tough.

The horse was extremely stiff in the neck/jaw when he first came, so I think that she developed the issue because she didn’t get any give from him. This is no longer an issue, but the habit remains. He is also quite a big horse with a long neck.

She gets the theory of softness coming from the arm and independent seat, and she has seen the videos (I video a course pretty much every lesson).

Giving her rocks to hold means I would have to pick up a lot of rocks! But carrying something…maybe a squishy cat toy?

The neck strap thing would be an interesting tool.