Extremley disappointed with Ogilvy Equestrian

I wanted to let other horse lovers know of my recent experience with Ogilvy Equestrian and its employees.

March 24th 8:17AM: I attempt to order a half pad from Ogilvy’s website, but my Mastercard was denied 3 times saying first that there was an internal error and then next that the number was invalid, the final time it told me to use a different card. I checked the number, code and expiration date very carefully and everything was correct, all 3 times. I then attempted to order with my American Express (which is an option) and then was told that “this type of card is not supported”.

March 24 10:32PM: I receive an email from OE asking to send my order and Credit Card number via email. I do so (even though sending my CC unsecured is not something I like to do.)

March 24th 10:39PM: I send my CC info, as well as my shipping address and then my billing address (they are different).

March 25th: I send an email asking if they could confirm the received my info, since I had not heard back.

March 26th: I get a response from Kristy that my pad will be shipped in 3-4 weeks.

April 22nd: I email OE asking when I will receive my pad. No answer.

April 24th: I email again, asking when I should expect my order/my card to be charged. Again, no answer.

April 25th: I email a 3rd time asking when I should be expecting my card to be charged/my order received.
Again, No response.

April 29th 12:20PM: I send the following email:
As someone who works with clients/customers on a daily basis, I am very disappointed in Ogilvy’s lack of customer service.

First, I was given 3 separate reasons on your website for why my card would not work, when I have never had an issue ordering online, with either card I tried, before or after using your website. You were quick to respond and ‘accept’ my order over email, but I have not yet received an order number.
Second, I was told 3-4 weeks for delivery, we have now completed 5 weeks and are entering week 6.
Third, I contacted you a week ago asking when I could expect my pad/my card to be charged as I had heard nothing from you. I have now sent multiple follow up emails, none of which have been acknowledged or responded to.

Unfortunately, there is no excuse for Ogilvy’s lack of response to client emails for over a week. As I mentioned above, I work with clients daily and if I was out of the office- there would be automatic emails directing queries to alternate email addresses; I would also be monitoring emails from my phone, responding to those I was able to remotely. I can see from Ogilvy’s Twitter and Instagram feeds that you are not without internet service, and have not been all week.

I am truly disappointed.

April 29th 1:12PM: I receive an email (!!!) back. They apologize for letting my emails ‘fall through the cracks’. They give me a tracking number, pad was shipped April 24th.

I check Tracking Number-- it is being sent to my billing address. NOT my shipping address. I ask how they are going to get it to me. They agree to refund my shipping as well as get the package redirected.

April 29th 3:00PM: I get a voicemail from OE, the owner of Ogilvy.

April 29th 5:15PM: I return his call, and am informed that they refunded the shipping on the wrong machine, and need to recharge my card and then re-refund the card. :mad: A charge on my card would result in a foreign transaction fee.
I let OE know that I try and support small businesses, but that all of the continued problems will lead me to just purchase from Smartpak in the future. OE lets me know that their office help had exams last week, and he was at Rolex, so no one was checking emails (but yet, could post to Twitter and Instagram multiple times/day? And managed to SHIP my pad?)
He says that the pad is on it’s way to my home now and that he will refund the pad to my card, and that while he doesn’t want to, he’s giving me the pad for free, as everything that could possibly go wrong has.

April 30th:11:30AM: I check the tracking on my package. It is now “Return to Sender”. I email Ogilvy.

April 30th 11:58AM: I get this response: You cancelled the order last night, so I asked our shipper if he could have it redirected. He said that it could be done, without any problem on his part. So I had it re-directed.
Your order will be refunded before the end of the day. -OE

So to recap: OE said I would be receiving the pad for free, and then without warning, decided to have it returned to sender. What’s interesting is that the pad was custom and monogrammed, which means they can’t DO anything with it. They are just doing this to spite me.

I am truly discouraged by the lack of Customer Service from Ogilvy. I realize that many people have purchased from them with success, including friends of mine who allowed me to use their pads to see if it would help my horse. He is retired and getting older, and his saddle is not fitting him as it should anymore and the Ogilvy helped the problem greatly.

I am not at all making excuses for poor customer service, but I feel like this happens a lot with smaller brands that blow up and increase in popularity over a short period of time. Another brand that is coming to mind is La Mundial.

I am interested in both of these products but have been scared off with stories of long wait times, incorrect products being shipped, poor or unresponsive customer service, etc.

Sorry you are having such a difficult time. Lots of customer service mistakes listed there.

I also had some issues with their website–it used to not work at all, and they told me that it was because they were updating their servers. I also tried emailing with a question before ordering and never got a response. So, I just called them up and asked if I could make an order over the phone, asked my other questions, and the whole thing could not have gone more smoothly.

The only thing that didn’t go as planned is that I used a Visa card as they said they would run that on their “US machine” so avoid the foreign transaction charge, but I still got charged the fee. I suspect that my bank knows where the vendor is despite what CC machine they use, and all things considered, not a big deal. I got my pad a little bit faster than estimated. If I were to get a second pad or a different cover, even though their website appears to be doing better, I’d probably still call them up and order over the phone even though I generally loathe doing that. I don’t think they’re really equipped yet for high volume internet sales. It used to be that choosing thread color for embroidery wasn’t even an option online, and much like my favorite old tack shop who also has a (so-so) online store, I suspect it’s going to be best to call them for orders for at least a while until they can get their web presence more stable and more staff. There are some small businesses that work great by email, but after the first unanswered email or two, I would have given up and just gotten it all settled over the phone.

A vendor who uses the excuse “we were at rolex so couldn’t handle our regular business” immediately gets crossed off my list.

It’s 2014. If you can’t handle going to a trade show and continuing to operate your business, then don’t go to the trade show.

You can answer emails at night. If I have to do it for my job, then so do you.

Up until a month or so ago I had never heard of them…now all a sudden EVERYONE has or wants a pad. What makes them so special anyway??

[QUOTE=roamingnome;7556835]
Jack lets me know that their office help had exams last week, and he was at Rolex, so no one was checking emails (but yet, could post to Twitter and Instagram multiple times/day? And managed to SHIP my pad?)[/QUOTE]

Perhaps they could hire working adults/non-students for whom the job is the priority?

Yanno, I haven’t yet ordered from Ogilvy because the whole company seemed very “held together by duct-tape and a laptop at Starbucks” in a way that’s probably acceptable for the Facebook Generation but very strange to the Bricks-and-Mortar Store Generation.

I’m glad my spidey sense was working, though I’m sorry you had to suffer a tale of woe to confirm it.

I, too, have had bad customer service from companies that relate to poorly trained staff. Mainly, these problems came from good intentions meeting piss-poor internal communication.

I’ve never ordered directly from Ogilvy. I ordered my completely custom Ogilvy from Equus English Riding Supply (free shipping, no foreign fees). I did a lot of research before ordering it. Though I follow Ogilvy closely on twitter and often communicate with them, I decided to go through a US company to get it custom ordered who had positive reviews. I ordered my Ogilvy on Feb. 27th.

My Ogilvy was just shipped a few days ago. Ogilvy is slammed. They were at Welly, Thermal, and Rolex. I’m sure they have more orders coming in than they were expecting, while also trying to help out people with problems. They are still a SMALL business.

I do agree that their customer service has been a little lacking, but I luckily had a middle man to talk to them about my pad. I just don’t think they were ready for all the success they are having.

Thanks guys, I was somewhat afraid to post this on here… Didn’t want to get flamed by all of the Ogilvy luuuuvers.

I still like the pad, I’ll just be giving my business to Smartpak. I hope OE enjoys using my pink-piped pad with my name on it :wink:

Thanks for the heads-up about Ogilvy. In today’s world of technologhy and connectivity there is no excuse for a company not to check/respond to it’s email several times a day. It was nice the owner offered to not charge you for the shipping and very generous to not charge for the pad. Not cool at all on his part to lie to you about it. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, Perhaps the shipping company screwed up the redirect. I agree that after a second unanswered email i would be calling, calling, calling

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Giving him the benefit of the doubt, Perhaps the shipping company screwed up the redirect.[/QUOTE]

If that was the case then I would think they would have told the OP that instead of saying ‘you cancelled so I changed it’.

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If that was the case then I would think they would have told the OP that instead of saying ‘you cancelled so I changed it’.[/QUOTE]

Yes, the UPS tracking info says April 29th 2:16PM- Sender changed delivery address- to be delivered to new address.

This morning at 9:15 it says - Sender changed delivery address- Return to Sender.

And then he acknowledged he changed this, meaning he went back on his word- that’s what REALLY gets me. That’s what lead me to post here.

I have an ogilvy pad that I bought a few years ago, before it really exploded and was still fairly new in Canada. I ordered through a tack store, and this was before custom colours and all that jazz.

I know that advertising is very different in this day and age especially with all of the social media, but something about their Twitter/Instagram feeds just rubs me the wrong way regarding the lack of professionalism. It seems to really be geared towards teenage fan girls versus the purpose marketing. If you look at different company pages such as Horseware or Equifit, they post personal pictures as well while remaining professional.

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I know that advertising is very different in this day and age especially with all of the social media, but something about their Twitter/Instagram feeds just rubs me the wrong way regarding the lack of professionalism. It seems to really be geared towards teenage fan girls versus the purpose marketing. If you look at different company pages such as Horseware or Equifit, they post personal pictures as well while remaining professional.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree. Which is disappointing because a barnmate just got the first one at our barn and I do really like the product.

That’s a shame. I order my custom pad through Farm House Tack and had no issues at all. Plus it was cheaper then from the company directly.

I can understand orders exceeding production capacity. But in that case, it’s up to the company to communicate that, starting with a notice on the website about back orders. And then after orders are placed, communicate clearly with all customers, and appropriately apologize for anything that goes wrong.

I work in marketing and would never let this happen at a company where I worked. It’s bad business practice.

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Up until a month or so ago I had never heard of them…now all a sudden EVERYONE has or wants a pad. What makes them so special anyway??[/QUOTE]

I have wondered the same. And I will admit, I have gone to their site, and drooled at all the custom colors - So Pretty!!

BUT - my saddle fits my horse, and those pads look like giant mattresses to me.

so, people that have, and love Ogilvy pads. What is so great about them? And do you use it under a saddle that fit before the pad? Did it not make the saddle tight through the tree points?

[QUOTE=Appsolute;7557011]
I have wondered the same. And I will admit, I have gone to their site, and drooled at all the custom colors - So Pretty!!

BUT - my saddle fits my horse, and those pads look like giant mattresses to me.

so, people that have, and love Ogilvy pads. What is so great about them? And do you use it under a saddle that fit before the pad? Did it not make the saddle tight through the tree points?[/QUOTE]

I believe it’s similar to a Thinline, as in it absorbs shock and reduces friction. I also think it’s more “malleable” and it fills in any spaces that might create pressure points.

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That’s a shame. I order my custom pad through Farm House Tack and had no issues at all. Plus it was cheaper then from the company directly.[/QUOTE]

I guess I’ll have to compare Farm House’s prices with Smartpak’s!

It seems like a cool product but I just don’t get the hype. I love the customization and all that jazz but think I will wait about a year until similar products come on the market for less $$ :lol:. I too think they seem bulky though. I ride in a square pad, thinline pad, and a pommel pad and am good to go. So I don’t have the half pad fetish that some people have :wink: (I saved that for my collection of horse boots and bits).

I am all for supporting small businesses, but it seems like they need to get their act together.