I also use natural vitamin e 1,000 iu capsules from Amazon. I have used Swanson, Solgar, Puritan’s Pride and now Carlyle (because it’s cheaper–$22.99 for 120 capsules). My two young horses get 3 each (in addition to what they get in their ration balancer) and eat them whole in their grain. I’ve never had a problem with it. It costs me around $15/month per horse for 3,000 iu per horse. I use the same brand for myself (but take 400 iu)
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@jb - they used to carry a pure vitamin E powder, but it looks like they don’t sell it anymore. I used to buy it from them. It was 2000iu per teaspoon scoop and it was a light yellow colour. No other ingredients in it. But I don’t see it anymore. Oddly enough it cost more than the one with the beet pulp or alfalfa carrier so I switched over to it a few years ago.
The 4400iu/10g serving is for the pellets which is a good sized scoop - larger than a tablespoon. Their site is a tad confusing I find and they list powder and liquid for all of their items but not all of their items come in that form (vit E is currently only in pellet form, no liquid form and no more pure powder that I can see), so sometimes they are irrelevant.
I also HATE all the Ultracruz bags. They are ginormous. I messaged with someone associated with the company on here to try to share those thoughts and was told that the bags are full when leaving the warehouse. Um, no they are not. The bag of MSM, for example, is as deep as the length of my entire arm, and the product is in the bottom 1/3 of the bag. It’s ridiculous. I’d much rather have bins. So apparently my intent to send useful feedback to the company missed the mark. I use several of their products, but their bags are awful.
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OMG I know right??? And velcro on a bag full of powder? What a terrible idea.
I poked around and found that the containers I prefer are InPack. Flip top lids, rectangular so they fit next to each other nicely on my feed desk. SO much better than bags. Anything I use that doesn’t come in one of these gets dumped into one left over from something else.
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Do you have cats that you buy clumping litter for? My litter comes in these pails. I recycle them for the dog’s kibble and horse’s alfalfa, Outlast and supps!
I don’t, but yes, same type of tub! The ones I use for supplements are smaller than the litter ones. Love this style, so useful for a lot!
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Thank you, I thought I was going nuts LOL
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Hi - I did pass your concerns on to production but they are not wanting to add more bags sizes at this time due to the cost. We do sell plastic containers if you wish to use those to store your supplements in instead. We do try to put them in the smallest size bag that will fit the product.
I do have coupons available (I don’t make any money from you using these). Just shoot me a PM if interested.
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I use Emcelle through Custom Equine Nutrition. I had a conversation with my vet about dosage as we are trying to get my PSSM filly’s levels up. The website says 1 pump = 4cc = 2000iu. I measured a few separate pumps and they were all 3cc, which would be 1500iu. I am going to repeat my experiment in the warmer weather and see if that makes a difference.
I tried the Smartpak brand but it is too watery.
For my gelding, I use the Herbs for Horses E-Booster pellets. I previously used UltraCruz pellets and only switched for cost reasons. I used human liqui-gels for some time and he ate them at first but then I started finding them in the shavings, like he spat them out.
My favorite liquid is the Smartpak Vitamin E liquid. It finally got my mare’s E up to an acceptable level in less than two months after over a year of trying various other methods (Premier 1 powder, UltraCruz pellets, human natural E liqui-gels). I assume it is functionally the same as other natural liquid options but when I purchase during a sale I can get a very good price.
If my mare did not require liquid supplementation to keep acceptable blood levels I would have both on the Herbs for Horses E-Booster pellets.
Liquid Emcelle or Swanson Natural Vitamin E Capsules
Assuming it’s created properly then yes, it’s micellized like Emcelle and Elevate WS
Do you know (roughly) how much loss there is when vitamins and minerals are left exposed to air? Because, uh, I kinda leave all those lame bags open pretty regularly because I’m almost always in a rush and find picking up the bag to open it and then trying to realign the “velco” back to close is time consuming and an exercise in patience. I should get those handy little reusable flip-top plastic containers, because I am also frustrated by the bags.
Minerals, nothing
Vitamins, I honestly don’t know. Vit A isn’t all that sensitive to air, it’s a function of chlorophyll in grass and hay, so the greener, the more Vit A (and alfalfa has more A than the same greenness of grass), I honestly don’t know if it’s affected by air. Vit E is though, absolutely, I just don’t know its rate of degredation, especially since air, and light, both degrade it.
I abhor the velcro of those bags which is why I use old Uckele 1lb copper/zinc containers with a screw top - I fill those as needed
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Thank you. As always, I appreciate your (seemingly bottomless) wealth of knowledge!
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Another person who used to use the UktraCruz powder but absolutely hates the texture and the mess. I’m currently using Piping Rock 1000 IU gel capsules from Amazon.
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Forgive me if I’m breaking a rule here, I’ll delete my post if so, but my horse decided he doesn’t eat the capsules anymore so I have a whole bunch I’d love to offload at a discount- I think 6 or 7 100ct bottles of 1000iu caps. Please anyone dm me if you’d like them!
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When my mare tested low, I gave her Nano-E from KER for close to a year. Since giving a liquid sup can be a pain for barn staff, once her numbers were up I switched to Smartpak Vit E pellets. It did not maintain her number, so I switched to Equithrive Vit E pellets. She’s been on it over a year now. I will have her tested again in the spring to see if it has worked for her. If not, we will have to switch again. Hopefully, it has worked as she eats it right up with her balancer.
I currently use Santa Cruz powder but am switching to the Smartpak liquid individual servings I think…The powder doesn’t stick to things that well and sometimes when I am dumping grain I can see it blowing away in the wind. Oops. And I LOVE the concept of a liquid that isn’t drippy and difficult to work with, unlike pumps which leak all over everything. Worth a try.
I think the cheapest is to do double the amount of Vitamin E capsules from Sam’s, but I didn’t do the math very precisely. They are 400 IUs each, 500 pills for $10.38. That’s 100 days for $10 if I double it for bioavailability and do 2000 IU a day. I think that’s ten cents a day? or five cents per 1000 IU if you like that calculation better. Math is NOT my thing though, especially in my head.
Reporting back like promised, they seem to be eating the alfalfa pellet version just fine, and I got not only the supp but also a very large reusable branded bag and an ICE dry erase name and number thing for using at shows or stall fronts at board barns if you want! Pretty neat! The pellets look very nice. Will probably order again 
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