So I am using a new feed to me, its TuckerMilling and its the Eqceed 12-12 textured; and it doesnt have alot of info about it on the web. Im feeding it to help with muscle growth and vitimins, it has great ingredients, and not to expensive, but I dont know if it is the right feed. Does any one know about this feed or has fed it and have reviews on it?
Email the company and ask for a list of ingredients and a list of the guaranteed nutrition including NSC. Then compare that to other available feeds and to your own horses needs.
Different horses have different needs, so what works for one OTTB in heavy work won’t suit an easy keeper QH.
I personally can’t imagine choosing a new feed without that data beforehand.
Googled this and see it has reference to ingredients but not an actual ingredients list. It has guaranteed analysis on some things but doesn’t state NSC. Sounds like there is a lot of corn in it? Thats not my choice for horse feed.
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Guaranteed analysis is at this link: http://tuckermilling.com/eqceed-12-12-textured/
There isn’t an ingredients list, exactly, but it does say it contains steam rolled corn, oats and beet pulp. It also doesn’t list NSC, which I would want to know, because with the corn and oats it could potentially be high.
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD=“colspan: 3”]Guaranteed Analysis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Crude Protein[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]12.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Lysine[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]1.00%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Methionine[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]0.25%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Threonine[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]0.45%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Crude Fat[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]12.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Crude Fiber[/TD]
[TD]Max.[/TD]
[TD]12.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Calcium[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]1.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Calcium[/TD]
[TD]Max.[/TD]
[TD]1.5%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Phosphorus[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]0.6%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Copper[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]65 ppm[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Selenium[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]0.60 ppm[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Zinc [/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]160 ppm[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Vitamin A[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]5,000 Iu/lb[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Vitamin D3[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]700 Iu/lb[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Vitamin E[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]180 Iu/lb[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Vitamin C[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]50 mg/lb[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Biotin[/TD]
[TD]Min.[/TD]
[TD]0.8 mg/lb[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
It is described as a textured feed which would mean visible corn and oats. Probably looks a bit like a sweet feed. Yes, I would expect high NSC.
TC Senior is a textured feed. My take on textured feeds means it’s not pelleted. With protein + fat + fiber being over 30%, I would not expect a high NSC feed, but we need the real numbers to make that assessment.
TC Senior is a pelleted feed. This is why many owners add water to make a mash or soup. I feed it everyday and
unless my eyes are failing me, I see pellets.:lol:
TC Sr is and always has been textured. The picture on their website shows a textured feed
I too expect to see the corn and oats in the OP’s feed, since it’s described as textured. I also expect the NSC to be in the 20% or higher range, but without knowing the order of ingredients it’s hard to say.
@Natnat when you call, make sure they give you sugar and starch numbers. Too many companies only give starch when asked for NSC, either because they don’t know the difference, or they’re trying to make the NSC seem lower than it is.
I would not say this has “great” ingredients when it contains corn. But some people don’t mind it, especially if it’s far enough down the ingredient list. And without the whole ingredient list, the quality of the ingredients can’t be determined.
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My horses were on Tucker Milling’s 10-10-10. The equine nutritionist switched us to a different brand with no corn.
The 10-10-10 is a sweet textured feed with whole corn. The Eqceed 12-12 picture on their website looks similar.
A long time ago, when Equine Senior was introduced, I was told by the feed dealer that it was an extruded feed, not pelleted, and that’s what made it more easily digestible.
Extruded vs. pelleted may be a distinction with not a lot of difference, but there it is.
I think the difference is that extruded is mashed up wet, cooked, and formed into pieces that are dried while pellets just compress the ingredients? The cooking stage could make some ingredients easier to digest.
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If the OP can’t get answers from Tucker Milling – send a sample of the feed to Equi-Analytical for analysis. It isn’t very expensive to do that:)
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Marla, it’s both. But that defaults to textured.
I think “extruded” refers to the process, and “pelleted” refers to the physical form, but wow what a discussion! Who knew.
https://equusmagazine.com/management/extruded-feed-explained-29640
Is basically as I said above. Extruded cooks the ingredients and makes some ingredients easier to digest. The extrusion process also makes a lighter weight feed.
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Yes, I stand corrected. thanks.
BTW- I emailed TC and asked- Is it textured or pellet- Here’ their response:
“It’s a combo of textured (beef pulp shreds) with pellets mixed in that contain the rest of the formula- alfalfa meal, wheat midds, soy, etc… with the vitamins and minerals and our Equimix package. It is called a textured feed.”
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