Feeding a lazy hunter - Seminole feeds?

Hi everyone! I am back once again seeking feeding advice. I am strongly considering switching my mare’s grain from the locally-produced feed provided by our farm to a Seminole feed. She has been doing fine on the barn’s feed and looks wonderful, but she is going to be transitioned from timothy hay to the barn’s rye hay now that she has started turning her nose up at the timothy hay. I am concerned that the high NSC content of the rye hay along with the high NSC of the barn’s feed would be too much sugar for my mare.

I have been a huge fan of Seminole’s feed in the past (my previous hard-keeper gelding absolutely blossomed on Dynasport) and would love to start using their feed again for my mare.However, I am on the fence about which feed would best suit my mare since I have never fed any of their other feeds besides the Dynasport. My mare and previous gelding are complete opposites, so I’m not quite sure that it would be a good fit for her.

My mare is your stereotypical hunter - warmblood build, muscular, a tad on the chunkier side (a healthy weight but not your venter body type), and super lazy and quiet under saddle. She is a moderate keeper (not an air fern but also not hard to keep weight on) who is worked moderately 4-5 days a week when weather allows, has access to quality pasture for about 12 hours a day give or take, is eating roughly two flakes of rye hay when stalled, and is getting two scoops of Platinum Performance Equine Wellness a day. Like I said earlier in my post, she is going to be switched over to the barn’s rye hay this coming week as she has started to turn her nose up at the timothy hay she has been eating for the past few months that I have had her. My guess is that the hay I have been receiving from the supplier has been more mature than the previous cuttings resulting in her leaving a majority of the hay untouched. This past month I tried transitioning her to an orchard/alfalfa mix hay since it is good quality and more nutrient dense, but the alfalfa has made her an uncharacteristically spooky mess and has lead to some very loose stool.

Although I am not an expert on horse nutrition (obviously lol), I have a bit of knowledge about it from a college course. I know that she needs a feed that has no more than 12% protein since she is not in heavy work and does not have a high protein requirement, and she should probably be fed a feed with a low NSC content due to the high NSC rye hay she is eating. The part that I am unsure about is which crude fat and crude fiber content ratio would best suit my mare’s needs. The two feeds I am trying to decide between are relatively similar except for the crude fat percentage.

The Seminole Dynasport has 12% CP, 14% CFat, and 18% CFiber with an NSC of 15%. The sugar is also low at 6%.

The Seminole Wellness Perform Safe has 12% CP, 8% CFat, and 21% CFiber with an NSC of 13%. The sugar is lower at 4%.

My gut is telling me that the Perform Safe would probably best suit her needs as it is going to be less calorie dense than the Dynasport due to the lower crude fat and higher crude fiber. However, I wonder how much of a caloric difference there is between the two.

To get to the point, here are my questions:

Should I just keep her on the barn’s feed since she looks wonderful right now even though she will be getting a more sugary hay? As some people say, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Do any of you use Wellness Perform Safe and would be willing to share your thoughts/sucesses/letdowns?

A huge thank you to every single one of you for sharing your knowledge with me! :slight_smile:

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I’ve always used Seminole Safe and Lite for both warm bloods and OTTBs, all easy keepers and hot blooded

call down to Ocala and a a Seminole nutritionist will help you decide what is best for your horse

How many lbs of hay and how many lbs of grain will she be eating? Chances are the weight of the hay is much greater and the protein and high NSC of the hay will make more difference than the grain. I wouldn’t look so much at percentages of protein, as I would calculate how much protein she’s getting in total from hay vs grain. It’s likely that the difference between a 12 and 14% protein grain fed in the 4-5lbs range is going to be minuscule in comparison to the amount of protein coming from the hay. Ditto the NSC. Feeding a low NSC grain isn’t going to help you much if the hay is high NSC.

Thank you, everyone! I did email Seminole and am waiting on a response from their team.

@mmeqcenter I am pretty sure it is the alfalfa since she had a similar reaction when we tried introducing alfalfa cubes to her diet during the winter. Although, I do wonder if she could still be a tad ulcery even after her previous treatment.

@Dutchmare433 We unfortunately don’t have a scale out at the farm, but she gets 2 flakes of hay right now which I would estimate is around 8 lbs of hay. I will take my kitchen scale out and weigh myself and the hay to be sure haha! Right now she is getting a full 3 qt scoop twice a day of the local feed.

As for the high NSC of the hay, there isn’t much else I can do hay-wise. The only thing available in my area right now is timothy, O/A, costal, or rye hay. My thought is that feeding a lower NSC feed would help lower the overall NSC of her diet than just continuing with a high NSC feed. It wouldn’t negate the hay, of course. Unfortunately, I have tried the timothy and the O/A hay, so I am now forced to try the rye that is available at the farm. I want to stay away from the costal since it has little nutritional value and makes me nervous about colic.

I also think that it would be beneficial to switch to a higher quality feed either way as the current feed she is being fed has a breakdown of 12% CP, 3.5% CF, and 10% CFiber and is not a fixed formula. She gets an additional fat supplement (Amplify) right now since the CF % in the local feed is not high enough. Switching to the Perform Safe should cease the need for the Amplify and be better for her gut health because of the higher CFiber % too. At least, that’s my thought process!