Figuring out the right thing to do for this cat--feral--in or outdoors?

Three weeks ago I trapped a feral tom that I’d been feeding outside for a few months. I guessed he was about a year old, largely because he didn’t show up even earlier. At the vet’s for neutering and shots nope, vet says he’s around 8 years old.

So, I’m trying to figure out whether it’s fair to this guy to try to make him live indoors or whether he should be released after his 2nd set of shots later this week, now that I know he’s much older and used to his freedom.

Here’s the “for”: he is a mellow guy who used to sit outside the door, looking as though he wanted to come inside. He hung out around my indoor cats and doesn’t fight with them now that he’s inside, other than a few minor initial skirmishes. Every day he gets tamer–he has the run of the house and hides but when I’m sitting down he will walk by, getting closer each day. He now makes brief eye contact. He has learned to use the litterbox. He doesn’t seem unduly stressed although I leave him alone.

More “for”: There are coyotes, who got the barn cat who was here when I moved in. Winters are cold. There is another tom who comes around periodically, a big intact guy (I’m planning to trap him next and have him neutered, but he will definitely be turned out after) who fought with this cat and dominated him (probably responsible for an abscess he had when I took him to the vet). So, outdoor living here is precarious and has real risks.

The “against”: He’s a lot older than I thought and might be set in his ways–he used to roam a pretty big chunk of my property. Now, at night he roams the house and calls out (often waking me up). I think he misses his territory and former freedom.

I think he will continue to get tamer but don’t know how much. Does it seem wrong to keep him indoors given that he’s used to his territory and freedom, or is it better to give him a safer home by keeping him indoors?

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Sounds like he’s adjusting very well to indoor life. Keep him in. If you give it a fair try, and it really isn’t working out in a few weeks, you can reassess then.

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A lot of friendly feral older cats are actually dumps and existing in the wild, and once “caught” and brought inside, return to their tame ways.

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Do what you can to let him live many more years in safety and security, and that’s inside. There are very few outdoor or barn cats in my 200 farmette horse community, and that’s because of coyotes. One almost daily coyote visitor steals my dressage arena markers and carries them into the woods, for fun I suppose, but as I’ve seen him hunting squirrels and rabbits, my cats stay inside.

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Why not let the cat decide how he wants to live? And does he have to be either in all the time or out all the time? Could he be an indoor/outdoor cat–in at night and out during the day?

A little over a year ago I took in a cat that had been roaming around our area for at least 18 months. After all that time as a free and footloose tom I thought he would never adapt to indoor life. After I had him neutered and vaccinated I turned him loose to do as he pleased. Much to my surprise, he likes the indoor life. He goes out early mornings and evenings, but sleeps inside all day. He also comes back a little after dark and sleeps inside, curled up next to me.

I think we should keep our cats safe, but we need to balance that with our duty to give them a life that is also happy. Some cats need to be outside like they need air to breathe; others very much prefer to stay inside.

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Well it depends on your area, what chances he has of surviving the coyote situation, and how comfortable he is indoors. Or how comfortable he is going to get in the future being indoors.

I’m looking at our former feral cat, who originally appeared at the barn and was an orange streak through the bushes as his first sighting. I knew that there was an orange cat around, and presumed that it was a stallion cat. Adult… full size. How old he was, was unknown. But he struck up a friendship with our spayed and completely feral female barn cat. And soon they were inseparable. Soon they were sleeping in each other’s arms in the hay, and going everywhere together. The feral female was in love with him, and he became more and more friendly… in the barn. Eventually the feral female he befriended died, and I tried letting him into the house, and he was game for bedtime… for a few hours. Then he would get up, and pound on the window to be let OUT in the middle of the night. I’d have to get up and let him out. In the morning, a dead mouse was waiting for me outside the window… my breakfast was provided. Every morning. But he wouldn’t stay all night indoors. So I got a new kitten.
He saw the new kitten, and was entranced. He came indoors and adopted the kitten, and they were inseperable for years afterwards. They went everywhere together, and slept in each other’s arms each night, in bed. He became an indoor cat. Eventually.
He’s allowed out, during the day, he can decide. At night, he’s inside. If there is a coyote around, he knows. He would garden with me, sitting behind me, scanning the perimeter. If he saw or heard a coyote, he’d growl to warn me. A “protection cat”.
He’s old now, we’ve had him 12 years. I’m guessing he’s at least 15. He just adopted the next two kittens I brought home a few months ago, after the untimely death of his previous best friend (aorta blood clot- very sudden).

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I’ve had a couple of feral cats and they adjusted to indoor life easily. So I vote for keeping him in.

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If you have the option of building a catio that he can access thru a window it might satisfy his desire to go outside and keep him safe at the same time.

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I’m another vote for keeping him in. If anything, him being a comfortable 8 years old means he doesn’t have kitten / young-um energy and might welcome a more sedentary life. Neutering will make a HUGE difference as well. Once he no longer has his tom-cat hormones, taking naps on a nice soft blanket feels far better than roaming around, chasing lady cats and evading coyotes and cars.

Its a really good sign that he gets along well with your existing kitties. I say give him a chance at the life of luxury.

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Eh… I had a cat show up a few years ago that was quite feral. I took him in to my work and had him snipped, clipped, and chipped then brought him back. If you look at him now he looks like someones house cat but I can assure you he wants no part of life indoors. He is the neighborhood murderer who can always be seen running with something dead in his mouth. I can pick him up now and give him kisses but don’t carry him towards the backdoor of the house or you will get sliced up lol.

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Daniel Riccardo when I trapped him, what he currently looks like, and him playing with his food :sweat_smile:

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Daniel Riccardo is a beautiful dancer with his mouse partner LOL! I love the distinguished name you gave him.

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Without his male bits, he may want to be an indoor cat.

My BFF had a male feral cat she fed for years. Finally got him trapped and was planning on doing a TnR with him. That was 3 years ago and he has decided he wants to be an inside cat now. Only goes out for potty and returns to the fluffy, comfortable bed he has.

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Main indoor problem for me with a neutered tom was the spraying he did.

I LOVE him!!! :heart_eyes_cat: :heart_eyes_cat: I love Siamese cats, especially when they are built like he is - like a tiny Mac truck.

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Another vote for keeping kitty inside.

I must use this once in a lifetime chance to share my Mack truck story. Decades ago my father bought sight unseen a two year old black Cadillac Eldorado from the Chairman of the Board of the Mack Truck Company. I drove him to pick it up. Unknown to Dad was that every Cadillac emblem on the car, inside and out, was replaced with gold Mack Truck Bulldog emblems. There was even a gold bulldog standing proudly on the hood.
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I don’t think I even need to feed him in all honesty. He eats literally everything he kills :face_vomiting:

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