First time mare owner foaling out at home?

So my friend is thinking of foaling out her mare at home, and I told her to write me up a little something and told her I’d post for her. She’s a capable horse person and has been really raked over the coals my several horse folks, so I totally understand her reasoning for wanting to do this at home! This mare has foaled out multiple times in the past without incident, and she’s got connections with good local vets if she needs them.

Here are her words:

I’ve never foaled a mare out before, but I’m considering foaling my mare out at home for several reasons. First, my mare has some leg issues that make her much more comfortable when she is turned out 24/7. None of the local foaling facilities will do field foaling; they all keep the mare in a stall at least part of the day. Some keep the mare stalled 24/7 approaching the foaling date. Also, the mare is on a controlled diet that I want her to stay on. I could provide all of this to a foaling facility but I have boarded in the past and not have my horse fed according to my wishes.

I also want the foal turned out 24/7 upon foaling. I have what I feel is an ideal setup with a stall attached to a private turnout for the mare and foal. The foaling facilities nearby do turn foals out, but only for a portion of the day. They (mare and foal) would be stalled at least 12 hours of the day.

My mare is very attached to my pony and I worry about causing her undue distress by seperating them. They will remain in adjoining pastures when the foal arrives (and for a time prior). When I remove the pony for longing/exercise, the mare runs the fence line. When the pony is in an adjoining stall or pasture the mare is fine and content.

And the most obvious reason is cost. It’s a lot cheaper to foal out at home. I also retain more control of which vet to use.

Foaling at home means that I will be responsible for handling, halter breaking, leading training, desensitizing to clippers, hoof handling, etc. and all the things that need to be done to ensure that the foal is a solid citizen. I’m not put off by that idea. She’s perfectly mannered for the vet, and this is her 4th (or 5th?) foal. She has not had prior complications. I know complications can arise at any time and I have to admit I’m not terribly familiar with all that can go wrong. The foal is not due until June so cold weather interventions like heat lamps and blankets won’t be needed.

Any opinions appreciated!

While this probably made several folks cringe, I had my maiden mare, my first foal (to birth, not raise), at home. My vet was extremely involved, and was quite ok with my decision.

If your friend’s vet is close and can be there quickly, even less risky.

Just make sure she realizes that despite several previous, uneventful foalings, nothing guarantees this one will be like that.

She needs to understand the issues of fescue, and do what it takes to mitigate that risk - removing from pasture, Equidone, etc.

It sounds to me like she’s made her decision. The teacher in me firmly believes everyone has to start somewhere and, provided she educates herself on the risks and courses of action should things become critical (like a red bag), she should do it. It’s great to know the vet is close, but she should know that, should trouble arise, no vet is close enough; the mare owner needs to know what to do. Foaling mares out is an incredible experience. It’s part of the reason I breed horses; personally, I can’t imagine letting anyone else foal out my mares, let alone paying them to do it.

I do think your friend should invest in a few good books about foaling, that she should read up on and prepare for worst-case scenarios, and that she should try to have a friend on foal watch with her if possible. Sending a mare to a foaling facility may bring peace of mind, but it’s no guarantee. One friend of mine sent her mare to one and the mare foaled unattended during turnout (another friend drove by moments later and saw). You guessed it – they charged her for foaling out her mare!

Thanks for the quick replies! She’s a very educated woman, and I am sure she will research the pieces out of every possible thing that could happen! What would be some good books for her to read?

I foaled my one and only foal at home. My maiden mare foaled outside in her paddock with run in, in the wee hours of the morning–no sign before going to bed she was going to foal–no bagging up, no waxing. Woke up at like 3am from a phone call, husband looks out the window and says “call the vet, we have a little pony”. “Little pony” is getting ready to turn 7.

She need to be sure her veternary is on board and will come if needed. From there she basically needs to remember the 20 minuet rule. From the time the water breaks and the mare goes down to foal the foal will be presented and mare will be getting back up to care for her foal will be appx 20 minuets. (You can scoot in and doctor the navel at this time and then back out and leave the mare to her job.) Next 20 minuets the foal will get shakely on it’s feet. Next 20 minuets the foal will nurse. Since this is a mare who has foaled before she will know what she is doing so allow her to foal out with as little human interaction as possible. Just stay back where you can quietly watch–especially during the actual foaling. After she gets her bonding time with her new foal there will be plenty of time for you to meet and do some bonding with the foal too!

The Complete Book of Foaling by Hayes
Blessed Are the Broodmares by Lose – some people think this one is too gloom and doom, but I find it helpful

Others are listed here: http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Book-Foaling-Illustrated/dp/0876059515
Also, think there have been a few threads here about the best foaling books, what to put in a foaling kit, etc.

I am a first time breeder with a maiden mare that is foaling out at home for reasons nearly identical to your friend. Actually, minus the leg problem, it could be me!

My vet was actually the one that convinced me to go for it - she pointed out that I have a good setup, am well educated, and nicely mentioned that I am overly attentive (anal!). She actually prefers foals born outside in proper conditions to those born in a stall.

My mare is due around the end of April (she’s bagging up already and making me crazy!) and I’ve been researching and watching all kinds of videos and such to keep things fresh in my mind.

That said, Kendra - RunningwaterWBs - knows how nervous I am. But, I know my mare, and I know she’d be unhappy being stalled for any length of time, though she would tolerate it.

I think it sounds like your friend has the perfect set-up for the mare to foal, not to mention an excellent set-up to raise the foal. I don’t think moving mares to a new facility for foaling is a great idea, and things can go wrong even if the Vet is right there.

I also think the less “fussing” with the mare and new foal, unless there is a real problem is the best. Let them bond.

I like the idea of the 20 minute rule, but in reality, (other than the actual foaling, which has to happen quickly) many things will take much longer than 20 minutes. Some foals take quite awhile to get up and be able to stay up and in my opinion it is best to not jump right in and hold them up. Same with nursing. Give them time. Most of the time, interfering makes the whole process more stressful and difficult for everyone.

Now, I’m sure I will get flamed but horses have been doing fine on their own for a long time. I know the feeling of thinking you need to do SOMETHING, but many times standing back and giving nature and nurture a chance to do their job is best.

This is interesting, because I am foaling out two mares at my farm this year for the first time and my vet never even suggested bringing them to the clinic. However, the clinic is five minutes from my house, so I guess it’s just as easy to come here as go to the clinic. One of the reasons we’re even breeding is for our family to have the experience of having the foal (now foals) born at the farm.

As someone else posted, you have to start somewhere. Sounds like she knows her mare and truly has her and the foals best interest at heart. I know my vet very well and I always send a text when my mare looks to be foaling in the next 24 hours, just as a heads up if she sees me calling. Does she work from home or have someone who can watch the mare at times when she needs to be gone? Hopefully she has a husband or very close friend who can be there quickly if she needs a second set of hands. Hopefully all will go well and a positive experience.

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That said, Kendra - RunningwaterWBs - knows how nervous I am. But, I know my mare, and I know she’d be unhappy being stalled for any length of time, though she would tolerate it.[/QUOTE]
It’s normal to be nervous! :slight_smile:

I would suggest that your friend review as many mares foaling on marestare as possible. There are also videos available on line that show and discuss difficult births. I had watched a video on what to do if your mare gives birth while standing, don’t ask me where it was it was a long time ago. However, as experienced as I am, my last foaling involved a mare that would not lie down and I had never experienced that one before. It really helped that I could quickly give my husband instructions on catching the foal for a happy ending.

Also, a mare foals very very quickly when things go right. You have about 20-30 minutes after the water breaks, on average, to make sure there are no issues.

If your friend is prepared to do what needs to be done, when it needs to be done or is willing to just let nature takes it’s course, there is no reason why the foaling cannot be done at home.

One of my favorites
http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/Foaling.shtml

Do the research, and have open communication with your vet. Again like JB, I foaled out my first foal (to breed) with my maiden mare at home. Foaled the second the next year, and a third last year. I completely understand all of the OP’s reasons, as I used to keep mine at home and when I moved to the east coast had to start boarding… and no one can care for my horses like I do… so now I do self care… but people still feel the need to throw my horses treats hay w/e… thank god my horses don’t have allergies etc. Can’t wait to have my own place.

I’m another newbie this year. My mare is also a maiden. I’ve studied Equine Science at university (although to be honest never really had all that much interest in the breeding subjects due to being more performance oriented!), have done several practical positions on studs - so have quite a bit of theoretical knowledge and some practical knowledge, but have never done this all alone before.

Luckily our neighbour is an experienced breeder, has had multiple foals every year for the last 15 or 20 years, and has said to call him any time, day or not, when the foal is coming and he will be there in minutes to help out if need be.

I think everyone needs to start somewhere, and if your friend has absorbed as much knowledge as possible, and can have an experienced friend on call to come and lend a hand when the time comes, I see no problem with her decision.

I also foaled my first foal out at home. I monitored her closely (mare ended up having some minor issues due to the fillies large shoulders so I helped pull her) otherwise there weren’t any issues…and my vet was on board. I don’t live at the farm, so was camping out in the horse trailer which QUICKLY got old lol…thankfully mare foaled on day 341 :smiley:

I did not keep my foal turned out…I was really concerned due to the large coyote population in the area so I turned out during the day (after she was a week old or so, before that was supervised turnout) and she came in at night.

I did have my vet on speed dial…although it was a 45 minute drive at least if there was an issue…but also had an experienced breeder whose my trainer/friend down the road that was willing to help :slight_smile:

My neighbor has foaled multiple mares at her suburban barn. She has a video camera and monitors the foaling stall constantly at night from her kitchen when a mare is due. During the daytime, she can see the pasture from her kitchen window. Her husband watches the monitor for several hours most evenings so she gets a few hours of sleep each night. I am the neighbor who goes over in case an extra set of hands is needed. It has all worked out well.

My neighbor is very organized. If something is not quite right, she has the vet on the phone immediately. If a mare needed a c section or there was another catastrophe, there would not be much she could do immediately. However, unless you foal your mares at a full surgical facility with the surgeon and anesthesia standing by the stall, it is hard to deal with a full blown emergency.

99% of all foalings go smoothly, quickly, and without any problems or interference from human beings. In fact, many times, humans can cause problems because inexperience makes them want to help out because the mare is in pain. It’s just that 1% of foalings that get really scary really quickly and this is where your vet needs to be in the area when it all goes down.

Most of the time, just stay out of the mare’s way and let her do her thing. Especially since she’s done this before, thus she already knows what she is doing.

Foaling outside in a clean grass paddock is probably one of the most clean and hygienic areas for a mare to foal out. It’s only difficult if the mare is not experienced, or you have a mare with a history of difficulties, and/or the newborn foal needs some help for some reason which is why most people using foaling stalls, but a stall is not absolutely required. Good clean dry grass is best choice.

As others have noted, keep a watch on hand so you can note the time frames as she progresses in labour, through delivery and how long it takes her placenta to come out. Also note your foal’s developmental milestones - becoming bright and alert, attempting to get up, taking its first steps/falls, when it finds the food bar, when it pees and when it poops. Everyone wants to help the foal. I really resist this. Putting your hands in the wrong place can put pressure on the foals abdomen, can cause bladder ruptures and all kinds of other trouble. Keep your hands off unless the foal is not making any progress after a couple hours. The process of the foal learning how to use its legs, learning how to get up, how to balance itself, how to move and walk are all extremely important neurological milestones and learning processes the foal MUST learn. Humans interfering with them trying to get up can actually interfere with this very important learning process. If after a couple hours the foal is not being successful, then you can assist the foal to its feet - your one arm goes around the chest, the other arm goes around the rump. NEVER under the abdomen.

I do not do an enema in my foals unless it is obvious that it takes strain to get the meconium out. My first choice is warm soap-water enema. If that doesn’t work, I will use a half of a PEDIATRIC Fleet. An hour later if still no progress, I will use the other half. Show restraint and caution when inserting the rubber tip for the enema. If done hurriedly or without restraint, you can puncture the rectal tissue and this is a death sentence for the foal.

Please do NOT use an adult Fleet enema. It can cause dangerous electrolyte disturbances in foals.

With the delivery, as long as the mare is making progress with her delivery do not interfere. If you feel you must, you can “hold” the foals legs so mare is able to maintain her pushing progress, but otherwise let her do the work. If it becomes obvious she is not making progress with her efforts, then first you determine if the foal’s position is okay - if it is then you help in time with her pushing - stretch the foal DOWN towards her hocks, NOT straight out. If the foal’s position is not correct, then call your vet. I never recommend an inexperienced person try to fix an incorrectly positioned foal.

Make a note, delivering a foal out will make a mare tired. This is normal for her to be tired. Don’t interfere unless she is obviously becoming EXCESSIVELY exhausted from pushing out an unusually large baby. Afterwards, Mare will want to rest for a while. Anywhere from 5-30 minutes or so is normal. Sometimes the foal is getting up before the mare. This is okay. As long as she is looking at her foal while down, nickering and even trying to lick at it, she can stay down. If you’re concerned, you can pull up the lips of your mare’s mouth and check the color of her gums. If they’re pale white, she needs a vet - something is wrong vascuularly - seriously. If they’re pink, poke them gently with your finger, it will go temporarily white and then rush back to pink. Backfill within 1-2 to 3 seconds is perfectly normal and your mare is probably okay, just really tired. If she herself is not bright and alert, then you call a vet. Otherwise, be patient with her.

Make sure ahead of time your vet is willing to come in the middle of the night. Some vets do not make nighttime farm calls! Keep his/her phone number on speed dial. Keep a back-up vet and your third choice Plan C veterinarian also on speed dial. In the spring, everyone’s mare, cow, sheep, goat, llama, dog and cat are having babies and the vets are often run ragged and may not be available for your call.

Put together a basic foaling kit - lots of clean towels. Clean facecloths work great for traction on the wet slippery foal legs if you’re deciding to help with the birth (again not recommended unless it is obvious the situation is not progressing, and again one needs to be sure the foal’s position is not the reason it is not progressing before one starts pulling). Chlorhexidine or diluted iodine or betadine in pill bottles for dipping the stump. Maybe some twine to tying up the stump/placenta upon itself at the mare’s back end. A plastic bag or pail to put the placenta in. Clean scissors in case you need to cut the sac from the foal’s face.

I really keep things simple, quiet and CALM for my mares. Mares feel extremely vulnerable when they foal out and are even more sensitive to YOUR excited energy. Force yourself to stay CALM. No rushing around, even in an emergency. Keep your voice low and quiet, rub down the foal for her, let her sniff the towel, let her see her baby. Stay out of her way.

I don’t always tie up the placenta as with most of my mares it slides out of their vulva before they get up, but there are a few where it sticks around longer, so you may want to tie it onto itself so she doesn’t rip it to shreds. (The only reason you don’t want her stepping on it is because a torn up macerated placenta makes it difficult to determine if the whole thing is there or not upon inspection.)

Do have your vet check the placenta for its entirety if you are not sure. If it’s not all there, she will need some oxytocin and the vet may choose to perform a lavage. Leaving an undetected piece of placenta in her uterus causes a life threatening medical emergency in the mare.

Books can scare you senseless. I don’t teach people what wrong things to recognize - there is an impossible array of possibilities that can go wrong. Instead, I prefer to teach people what a variety of NORMAL foalings looks like.

When they teach staff at a bank to recognize counterfeit money, they do it by having them study the REAL money. Then when a counterfeit comes along, you recognize it.

Same thing with foalings. There are a variety of proper and normal things that go down with foalings. Learn the normal ranges and times frames involved and the right presentation of the foal. The one time you run into a problem, you’ll know it instantly because it doesn’t look the same as a regular foaling.

Otherwise, breathe. Enjoy the process. Enjoy your foal.

Thanks Rodawn! You just saved me a lot of typing! I was going to say the same thing. We foal out quite a few mares here every season, but I was a beginner at one time as well. Do your homework (as you are obviously doing) and then if you are comfortable, go for it! Good luck!