Florida Horse Care

Hi,
We are moving from the UK to Florida (Bradeton.Lakewood Ranch Area)soon, and I have so many questions about keeping horses in Florida. I owned and ran a successful Hunter/Jumper barn in San Diego, Ca and then we moved to the UK for 9 years and now moving to Florida. So I know how to keep and train horses in those climates but the is so much to learn about Florida.
We rotate pastures in the UK - Summer and Winter pastures - but I think I will have to rotate more in Florida? What about any other maintenance needed?
What hay to feed? I am use to Alfalfa or Bermuda in CA or Hay or Hay ledge in the UK!
Assume need to treat for sand monthly?
Best treatment for fungus??
What are the Hunter/jumper shows like?
Ideally I will work for someone for the first year to get to know the ins and outs of Florida, hopefully someone will be looking for someone to teach lesson, barn manager, etc. But would like to have my horses at home so need to know the basics about Florida horse care when we move.

Any advice or suggestions much appreciated!
Thanks

Just wanted to pop in and say hello from Bradenton. Horse keeping is a WHOLE NOTHER ball game here! Feel free to PM me since we’ll be so close to each other with some specific questions! It’s hard for me to describe compared to UK as I have no idea what horsekeeping is like there.

Not in Florida but very close, about 75 miles away. Great Hunter Jumper scene in Florida, lots of shows at all levels. I don’t show but if you check the Hunter Jumper Association you might get better info there. We have 4 horses on 8 acres and never rotate pasture. Grass grows overnight here, we end up needing to mow it ever two weeks or so. I’m sure you can still set up to rotate but there is no summer/winter rotation. We don’t have a sand issue here so can’t address that concern, or problems with fungus either. You can get any kind of hay you want in Florida but depending on what you want to pay it can get quite expensive. We pay $27 a bale (two strand) for alfalfa, T/A and Orchard/Alfalfa costs the same. You can get it in Ocala for about $16-17 a bale. Coastal Bermuda is the local grown hay, much cheaper but can cause issues with impaction colic and gas colic. Some people feed it and never have an issue, other’s have had issues with it, we don’t feed it. Flies and mosquitos are pita, pretty much year round as are fire ants.

I won’t touch coastal with a 10’ pole. The fine, long stems cause a lot of impaction colics, and I think you get much better nutritional value out of a high quality orchardgrass or alfalfa mix. Good hay is VERY EXPENSIVE, so I use small-hole hay nets to prevent wastage. Also keeps the horses eating longer, something to munch on to prevent boredom and ulcers. I even feed in haynets outside in the field, thrown on the ground for barefoot horses.

To a degree, you won’t have to rotate pastures too much-- since it’s sand, not mud, acreage can handle a little more horse abuse without getting too beat up. Yes, you will have sandy pits around the gate, the water, and fencelines where horses walk, but unless your horses are really wild it isn’t too bad.

Skin funk is common, mostly in new horses adapting to a new environment. Once their immune systems adapt to the local ickies, I notice the skin issues are greatly reduced. Consider turning out with cotton sheets or fly sheet combos for the first few weeks, to at least avoid skin crud under the saddle area. The BEST product to use for a wide variety of skin conditions is chlorhexidine scrub (Novasan, brand-name). It’s what vets use to prep for surgery and injections. It’s effective on fungus and bacteria, works on garden-variety scratches, cannon bone crud, rain rot, and great to scrub wounds. It’s not cheap, but a gallon of it has lasted me 2 years with 6-8 horses.

There are lots of sand clear psyllium products, but you’ll find the locals rarely use them. Studies at the University of Florida have shown that free choice hay, or feeding beet pulp, is just as or more effective than psyllium. My horses get a minimum of 20lbs hay, and soaked beet pulp (with their regular grain) every day. Knock on wood, no sand colic issues.

Bugs are bad, really terrible except for January and February. Fly sheets, fly masks, and good fly spray is essential. Keep things off the ground and put away in containers. ALWAYS LOOK before sticking your hand in a dark place or picking something up…stinging ants, black widow spiders, and scorpions are somewhat common (shake out your horse’s blankets, too, if they’ve been sitting out unused for a couple days).

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Welcome to Florida!

  1. Pastures: Grass grows really well in FL, even in the winter. Most pastures are Bahia. Here in Ocala (a few hours north of Bradenton) I have to MOW in the summer,!! Rotation is a good idea though, to prevent sand areas from developing (be really careful about that - they will only get bigger as horses dig for roots - and ingest sand! I spread some stall cleanings in places I want the horses to stop abusing). Dragging the fields will also reduce worms and help the grass.
  2. Hay: DO NOT FEED COASTAL HAY. It is associated with higher incidents of colic. You will be shocked at the price of Hay in Fl. Be prepared.
  3. Fungus: “Muck Itch” spray. Mostly, though, keep horses clean and dry. Summer sores are more likely - they are the result of small midge bites then infested with larvae. Treat with Ivermectrin (yes…).
  4. Treating for sand: Although many folks use psyllium or other preparations, a big Univ of Fl study found that adequate hay intake worked best, and for the most part the preparations were ineffective.
    Other notes: Many folks use a feed thru fly prevention. It helps.
    Paranah is the only fly spray that works (IMO)
    Be cautious if you use a local feed mill. There have been cases of cattle drugs in horse feed killing horses in FL if the mill produces ANY cattle feed. Here in Ocala we have the local Seminole feeds, but just about any brand is available somewhere.
    Heat is an issue - be cautious is you regularly wrap legs for work.

Not a H/J so can’t address any of that, sorry!!
Loretta

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Also, inspect your pastures for Creeping Indigo, nasty weed that likes to hide.
http://www.ninaswarriors.com/

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Thank you so much for all this info. Just as I thought I have a lot to learn about keeping horses in Florida. We are not bring out horses as one is a filly and the other I don’t think will handle the heat. So will have some time while we are looking for a new pony Of for my daughter to learn about all this! Of course, the way things have worked out time wise we will be coming in the hottest time June/July time frame! I am sure I will have more questions soon! thanks again

One Two Three, would love to chat about the area, but being a newbie on the form, can’t figure out how to PM on here!

Some horses make the transition to the heat quite well. I brought my horse from Alaska to the Deep South, he never had any issues with the heat.

Also welcome to the area, I live in Lakewood Ranch and my neighbor is a HJ Trainer and there is another one close by. So if you need any help to get to know anything. Anytime!! I think most of the useful advice you got already!!

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Take lorilu’s post in regard to hay and sand colic to heart. I would add that if you plan to show make sure your horses are all up to date on any shots. Plan on flghting bugs year round and keep opossums off the property.

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I moved my horses to coastal AL and had terrible problems with their feet falling apart. The constant moisture and stamping from bugs are issues. Kereatex products helped, but it was a constant battle.

Humidity is a huge issue, especially in the hot summer. I had one horse develop anhidrosis.

Are folks still having issues with Creeping Indigo?

http://www.ocala.com/news/20150909/h…reeping-indigo

http://www.largeanimal.vethospitals…digo-toxicity/

www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1414459

[ETA] Oops, froglander already covered this.

Hi All! Well we are here in Florida and getting a handle on keeping horses in Florida. The heat is bad, but not as bad as I thought it would be, or I am getting use to it. The horses are doing well and I am getting the barn up and running! Which is not as easy as I thought. But loving having the horses at home and can’t wait for more!! =)

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Haven’t seen an Opossum yet, as a opossum newbie, why should I be trying to keep them off the property? What should I look out for?

Don’t worry about opossums. Keep your feed covered to keep all critters out of it. Many animals, including opossums and cats carry the EPM parasite. You don’t want them defecating in your feed or hay. Opossums eat huge numbers of ticks, including those which cause Lyme. You don’t want to kill them.

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I never minded the summer much since I knew it was hot all up the east coast. It is the winter that starts to suck because you don’t get seasons. You get even less seasons than the San Diego area… the leaves never fall, there isn’t snow in the mountains since there are no mountains, and its 80 on Christmas while you see facebook friends posting pics of their winter weather.
However, while this bothered me I know a lot of people who loved knowing it was warm and hot when their friends were in sub 20 degree weather!

@RCMUM21 , welcome to Florida! I spend time in the area during the winter, but my horses stay up north. So I am horseless during my winters. :frowning:

@onetwothree , I did not realize you were in B’ton!

@Manni01 is also nearby, and has been very welcoming. I intend to actually MEET Manni01 this next season!

Would be lovely to meet ALL of you this winter. :slight_smile:

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