Free lease gone bad

With regards to the story discrepancies… I have been at a family event. Later, at different times, two different relatives discussed with me something that had happened there. If I hadn’t been there, I would not have known they were discussing the same event. Their interpretations of things were THAT different.

So it may be that the OP presented her side of the story as she believes it to be true. And under her interpretations of events the BO looks like the bad guy.

But it according to the BO, the inverse appears to be true.

Curioiser and curiouser.

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I can’t side with either party based on the conflicting information we have here, but it strikes me as very odd that the BO took out a lien on the horse, sold it at auction/bought it back but then continued to do business with the OP and even employ her and allow her to live on site. IMO, once you’ve taken someone’s horse and auctioned it for failure to pay bills, the relationship is over. As a business owner, you’ve had plenty of fair warning as to what kind of person you are dealing with.

No one can judge the BO for caring for an old pony. But I’m impressed by the energy of a 48+ year old BO (she’s been in business for 27 years so I’m just doing the math) with a baby and a toddler (in addition to her busy horse business) who is able to pursue this matter so firmly. Hopefully since the BO has a paper trail including the lien and the auction record it should be a simple matter of getting the police involved. I’m confused as to why anyone would wait to involve the police in such a situation–IME having the police quickly respond to a theft is FAR less dramatic than “giving someone chances” to make things right or making a splash on social media and FAR more likely to result in a quick return of the stolen property.

I hope I don’t appear as if I’m siding with the OP (because I don’t think there is enough information here to side with either), but I will say that one of the unfortunate things about being a BO is that you are held to a higher standard than your clients. It’s your responsibility to avoid doing business with people who have proven themselves untrustworthy or financially insolvent and to make doubly sure that all agreements are clearly delineated in writing.

ETA, I see I have the dates wrong and that the BO didn’t file a lien until this year, but still–once someone hasn’t paid you board for an animal for a reasonable period of time, it’s time to settle matters and end the relationship, not employ the person and board other horses for them. If the BO really believed this horse was hers, why didn’t she insist on a written BOS before waiving board fees?

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Yes I totally get it if you are speaking in your own name to folks who form your larger social circle. But doing it anonymously to an international chat group, that doesn’t make sense except perhaps just to rehearse a plausible story. Or perhaps to them direct the people who are her court of public opinion to read the falsified story.

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Exactly what I was trying to say, Scribbler.

This thread took an interest twist. I googled the farm name and found a FB page. If it’s the same farm the BO is not anonymous by giving her farm name as you can see her name in some of the posts. Also, the BO posted, assuming it’s the same place, eight days before this thread was started that the horse was taken out of the barn and that it had been reported to the police.

Very odd for the OP to act like she didn’t already have the horse.

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Had a friend bring up the BO’s FB page on her computer…BO said on there that her “farm feeds my kids”…who keeps 10 horses for 20 lessons when they need the farm to feed their kids?? It just gets more bizarre…I’m waiting for a blue saddle to show up somewhere in here. Or maybe we’ll hear something else from whatever person owns the farm that is housing the pony. Sheesh.

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meeeoooowwww.
The CoTH cats are on the prowl, interpreting everything in THEEE most negative way possible to stir up some drama, aren’t they?
So… nobody here has ever referred to their horses or critters as “My Kids”?

Buncha harpies…

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Well this definitely puts everything in a different light!

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So when someone wants to take care of their horses for the long term, even when they’re older, they’re suddenly “hoarders” and not responsible owners???

And when the lesson program “feeds her kids,” this is bad? I mean most of us have jobs that “feed our kids” so I don’t see what the problem is here.

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It’s like divorce. Neither parent is fit to have the kids (according to the parties) yet somehow custody and visitation get arranged.

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Eight days prior?! Good lord, this has indeed taken an interesting twist. I’m feeling worse and worse for the pony in question.

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I’ll admit I didn’t thoroughly read every post. Did I miss a farm name somewhere?

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I imagine it was linked on the BM’s COTH profile, but I haven’t looked to confirm that.

BO said Showtime Stables in CT in one of the long posts

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Ah, must have been one of the ones I gave up on and started to skim.

Let me get this straight. The horse was taken in the middle of the night of March 19 or early on the 20th, and reported to the police as stolen, and it was eight days before the first post on here? This is really confusing.

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My take is that the OP (person who took the pony) is realizing that they may be SOL because BO appears to have followed the law, and so OP came here searching for some help when they realized they might be in serious legal trouble for “removing” the pony in the middle of the night.

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OK that makes sense. They come on and ask for legal advice and blur the facts because that will give them more congenial advice. But the OP didn’t say that the BO had gone through a lien process that gave her legal ownership of the horse. Our advice would have been rather different!

On the other had, OP may not have known this. And indeed it may or may not be true.

I see that OP is not coming back to give her rebuttal to all this, so I’m guessing that the BO is closer to actual events than the OP. The BO may be more “truthy” than the OP.

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I feel really sorry for you, Showtime. I have been there before investing a lot of personal, time, money and resources into a disadvantaged kid and then having it blow up in my face. Like they say, no good deed goes unpunished. I hope you get the pony back soon. She looks beautiful and much loved on your FB post and your farm looks like nurturing place for kids to start in horses.

It is worth going through the FB comments if you are questioning the BO’s account.

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Lovely pony, sorry this happened to you Showtime Stables. Good luck getting her back

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