Games Trainers Play: The Florida Horse Saga

[RegentLion]

I think we’ve overlooked here who the REAL victim is going to be… the poor kid riding the horse. Chances are she’s unaware of all the drama, probably doesn’t REALLY realize she’s riding so poorly and/or isn’t given the instruction on how to fix it. If this poor kid is in love with the saint of a horse and he gets yanked from her in any way, I’ll be she’s going to be heartbroken… all becasue the adults in her life are a$$hats.

I’m past thinking that the seller is being victimized… she’s allowing herself to be taken advantage of and to be honest, I think that if she got her selling price (or anywhere near it), she’s going to forget she was an idiot and will likely make these mistakes again.

I don’t think that Trainer(s) or Buyer are ethical either–they are manipulative jerks. If they get to buy the horse for less than selling price, then they win and will likely go and make these types of shady “deals” again.

The only way I can see this situation teaching both the trainer/buyers and the seller a lesson is that if a 3rd party gets the horse for pretty cheap.

Then again, then the kid is screwed and will likely have to go through this (or similar) drama–again… :sigh::no:

[Anne_FS]

@Glenaerie;2927721

I wonder if the bucking/refusing story was the original plan, and the photos were an unexpected surprise to Thing 1 and Thing 2, causing them to have to come up with a new story in a hurry.

Yep. Had the horse since Nov. 30 and “trainer” in FL didn’t notice the ABSYMAL rides its been getting? I vote with stick with Thing 1 and Thing 2 because Thing 2 is NOT a trainer, and Thing 1 is a lying crook. There. I said it, and I’ll say it again. IF the emails are true quotes and not made up by seller girl, this mother/daughter tag-team of grifters are lying, stealing crooks.

[eponacowgirl]

Really, I’m not involved at all. I promise. Did you read the rest of the posts? I will make no commission, percentage, nothing. I’d be dancing on the tables (and this sale would have gone ALOT faster) if I stood to make a couple hundred dollars at the end of whole ordeal.

That said, I agree that this horse isn’t in need of “rescue.” Sounds like the (potentially) purchasing family is a group of pretty good people (when it comes to horsecare, at least), if everything Donkey found is true, which, given the rest of the info hes provided me with, I don’t doubt one bit.

findeight- I know. I know its dead. I’ve been over it, but unless you want me to quit updating, I’m going to keep a foot in the door with my friend.

Mods- Sorry!

You know, it wouldn’t be a good trainwreck without the mods making an appearance!

[Anne_FS]

[QUOTE=Amwrider;2928148]

I too would be surprised if trainers 1 and 2 are not reading about this.[/QUOTE]

I hope they are.

They’re probably laughing though, because let’s face it, they will have the last laugh: freebie show horse from Nov. through the winter circuits, don’t have to pay one dime, no farrier, no vet, and I still say seller girl is going to accept whatever measly amount of money, down to and including ZERO, for them to keep the horse because seller has admitted she does not want the horse back.

[Anne_FS]

@Glenaerie;2927939

If this were really a movie or book, a group of clever COTHers would scheme out a plan to step in and buy the horse for the seller’s original price, maybe even pay a little more than the asking price to really stick it to the bad guys…

And the twist at the end is that seller is purposely feeding all of this so the softies on COH, as is happening right now, are plotting to raise money and get seller even more than she asked for for the horse! And SHE’LL have the last laugh as she pockets $10,000 from COH going “Suckahs!”

[Candle]

[QUOTE=mademoiselle;2928776]
I kind of agree with the other poster. This horse doesn’t need to be saved. As far as we know he is fed, shiny, he is on supplements and has access to vets and farriers.

The horse will survive the bit and the poor riding, trust me. If every horse who is poorly ridden was a rescue case … Well, I don’t even know where to start.

In this case the owner made her own decisions despite everybody’s advice and refused to be helped thinking that she kenw better. So if she never gets the money or gets the horse back and needs to retrain him, call it ‘experience’.[/QUOTE]

You said it better than I could have. Also, maybe I skipped a post, but where exactly are these trainers explicitly going against eponafriend’s written directives? If they were given an inch and taking a mile, as the saying goes, maybe that would piss me off more, but for heaven’s sake, they were given half the country

[Anne_FS]

[QUOTE=ESG;2928390]
I think this horse may even be in greater need than TT. :no:[/QUOTE]

WHAT?!?!?!?

There goes the “genius” designation right out the window. (jk)

[Iron_Horse_Farm]

[QUOTE=mademoiselle;2928505]
Come on after 40 pages of drama you should know by now that it will not be the end of it.

Then they will do the PPE, and it will take between 3 days and a week and a half for the vet to read the films (the X ray machine is going to break) then the vet will be on calls for emergencies 3 days in a row and will not be able to get back to the buyers.
Then, they will see something suspicious on the X-Rays, but as it’s a little bit blurry, the vet will have to come back to the farm to take 2 more views.

Repeat above paragraph to know the results of the 2 set of X Rays.

But they loooooooooooooooooove the horse so much that they want a 2nd opinion on the XRays. So, they are going to send them to ‘x’ who is a specialist for legs but even more of a specialist than the 1st specialist.

And then, they might make an offer for $3,500 for the horse … or not

So, in short forget the 18th of January, not going to happen.[/QUOTE]

EXACTLY!!!

[HighFlyinBey1]

[QUOTE=donkeyman;2929018]
It is not wise to chastise people who donate or imply they are donating in poor judgment because those type of comments could vacuum seal one’s wallet for future rescue requests…haven’t you heard the comment “don’t piss off the benefactor”[/QUOTE]

Thanks to the education in threads on this board, I consider my judgement good enough to know the difference between a rescue and a “rescue.”

Although this horse is in the possession of buyers with questionable ethics, an owner of questionable intelligence, and a rider/trainer combination of questionable talent, he is being fed & cared for. Stupid is as stupid does, but in my wallet’s opinion, he has no need to be “rescued.”

Now, will someone pass the popcorn and a 'rita? It’s Friday, 5:00 somewhere and I’m easily amused by the ride the owner is being taken on

[2WBs1TB]

Ok, I’ve got my super-size pop-corn and my super-size diet coke.

Let the drama continue…I’m ready! :lol:

[witherbee]

Okay - what page are the links to the pictures on? I thought I’d read this whole thread, but may have had a momentary coma while hitting my head on the desk…

[AnotherRound]

witherbee, I spewed. Thanks for the laugh on that one!

[BeastieSlave]

You know, I missed the pictues too! Must have been when I was slapping myself

[Bliss92]

Even though I know it’s not the 18th, I still can’t believe something hasn’t been done yet. Although, at this point, I don’t know if I’m hoping for more of a spiral downward, to keep the drama going, or for it to just all end once and for all.

I agree with those who think the trainers are reading this. With almost 65,000 views, I’d guess they had to of popped in at one point or another. If nothing else, the seller probably gave trainer 1 the link to the thread, asking for her advice, despite all the nay-sayers The evil side of me is hoping they get outed at some point… I highly doubt any commission they make from this sale will sustain them, should their reputations suddenly be tarnished. No one wants to work with a trainer with “crook” written on their forehead.

While I would love to see the horse in a new home, I agree that I don’t really think he’s a rescue. Should a board member want to buy him, I think that would be a completely different story. Although, I also agree with those before, who said it would only be fair if both trainer’s lost out on the sale, the procrastinating owners lost out, and the “poor me” seller had to sell him for a dirt cheap price. I was feeling bad for the seller, but the longer this goes on, the more I feel she’s like my sister in law - and is going to make bad choices, blame others, and play the “poor me” game. :yes:

Anyway, eponacowgirl, keep up with the updates. It’s like One Life to Live - I can’t pry my eyes away from the completely unbelievable drama!!!

[At1Dressage85]

This is better than a soap opera. It’s my daytime entertainment while stuck at home with the toddler, pregnant…can’t ride…might as well read this soap opera! This is unbelievable.

[BuddyRoo]

Good heavens! I tried. I reallly really TRIED to not come back and read…because the “bang head here” sign on my file cabinet now reads “Bang (indention in metal from forehead) Here”–after the repeated head banging rubbed off all paint. Now I have to buy a new cabinet as I’ve damaged company property, I have a heck of a headache, and my “bang head here” sign now looks like an advert for a call girl “Bang Here”.

Perhaps the costs of replacement and my aspirin will also be deducted from the original sale price?

Lordy.

[Dressage4Fun]

yeah, it is my drama fix too!! I have other deadlines I should be worrying about, but hey, WHO CARES!!! I am SO glued to this I can’t stand it!! SO just waiting on the next update, eating popcorn!! keeping the blender going!

[Bliss92]

[QUOTE=At1Dressage85;2929365]
This is better than a soap opera. It’s my daytime entertainment while stuck at home with the toddler, pregnant…can’t ride…might as well read this soap opera! This is unbelievable.[/QUOTE]

LOL, I’m stuck at home with a preschooler and 2 toddler’s (thankfully not pregnant… LOL), and all my riding cash goes to diapers. :yes: I have to live through the drama on the board, since Dora the Explorer and The Doodlebops don’t have much entertainment value for anyone over the age of 4. :no:

[horse-loverz]

This thread is definately feeding a whole heard of Drama LLama’s and Anxious Alpacas are waiting to see how it ends…:lol:

[findeight]

129 more posts and this hits the coveted 1000 responses level and goes down in the COTH history book.