In other news, since this thread has unceremoniously been bumped…
Safe Sport still lists George Morris’ sanction as “(subject to appeal / not yet final)” as of Wed, Oct 30th.
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Actually, on the USEF site it says “subject to appeal” as it has all along. Are you looking at the Safe Sport site itself?
Yes - the Safe Sport Centralized Disciplinary Database.
It is taking some time isn’t it? It will be interesting. I understand that an appeal makes much more information publicly available.
Yep. The appeal is certainly taking its time. We are coming up on 3 months since the initial lifetime suspension was handed down. I honestly didn’t think it would be so long. I hope for all the victims sake that it comes to an end soon.
Of course we (those of us who don’t know him personally) don’t really know if he has appealed. He said he would, but that doesn’t mean he has.
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I think the assumption is based on the fact that you have to file a intent to appeal within 5 days of the original decision. If an accused does not file an intent to appeal, the decision then becomes “final”. Therefor, one might assume an appeal has been filed, because the decision isn’t listed as “final”. I see no reason they would extend different rules just for GM.
But, all of this is just speculation and assumption.
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That makes sense. I’m sure you’re right. He must have appealed or it wouldn’t still be “pending appeal”.
Yes, let’s throw all the survivors of sexual abuse in prison because their perpetrator wasn’t stupid enough to leave clear physical evidence. Let’s throw the survivors of these sick pedophiles in prison because they should have the emotional strength as children to speak out against adults in what should be trusted positions of authority, or family friends, or family members. While we’re at it, let’s just not remove anyone from their esteemed positions unless they’re actually convicted of a crime. Let the pedophile teachers, priests, coaches, etc just keep their jobs, because their lives and reputations and ability to make money is far more important than protecting anyone from them just based on several people repeating the same experiences with them.
I don’t have enough palms for my face right now.
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I believe the hearing is next week. Probably why we’re seeing a resurgence of activity from the ISWG crowd.
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How do you know it was
1.Only someone’s word?
2. From 40 years ago?
And you do know that if someone files a false SS report, they are subject to sanctions as well, right?
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I always think it’s interesting that the people that defend GM and any others assume that, because they haven’t heard what evidence there might be, there must not actually be any evidence.
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Because when people like Katie Prudent say it isnt true because she didn’t personally witness George having sex with children and a Robert Dover says it isn’t true because hot hubby says George didn’t proposition hot hubby in his 20s, then people add one and one together and come to a conclusion. On an unrelated topic. And then think they’re on the trolley.
And then share their wisdom with the rest of us dummies.
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More information, even though it really doesn’t actually have any new informatio. https://www.chronofhorse.com/article/george-morris-safesport-arbitration-held-in-new-york
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Interesting. Still listed permanently banned and ten days from the arbitration. Morris declines to make a comment. My interpretation is A) decision has not been reached yet or B) it has been decided against Morris.
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The last sentence from the Chronicle article is interesting, since it specifies that he may not teach USEF members. In the past, suspensions have usually involved not being allowed on the grounds of a USEF horse show. Does anyone know if the phrasing is different because it is a safe sport issue?
From the Chronicle article:
“Under the lifetime ban, which is reciprocated by the Fédération Equestre Internationale, Morris is not able to coach international teams for the United States, or any other countries. He is also banned from coaching or instructing USEF members.”
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That’s a Safesport policy
What AffirmedHope said… the “aiding and abetting” clause specifically.
But it shouldn’t be an issue with all those droves of people who said they were leaving USEF over Safesport. :rolleyes:
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He’s been coaching Brian Cournane all summer.
Thanks.
