Pure speculation on my part, I have no idea what kind of court ordered conditions JS has to abide by… But if there ARE conditions that limit his contact with youth, that may have played a role. GM has no such conditions so it would be more important for him to be banned by SS. If JS isn’t allowed contact with youth by some function of his criminal record, he can’t. Being banned or not makes no difference?
I noticed she was one of the first to express disgust about child pornography, yet she supports almost every other person that has been banned by SS. Apparently assaulting minors is less offensive to her.
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And… now it’s gone. Navin doesn’t even have the courage of her misguided convictions. Glad you saw it… I thought I was Real Losing My Mind.
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I saw it. It was one of the first ones that popped up as a comment. I actually did a double take.
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I’m feeling the same way—-that I shouldn’t look because I’ll be so disappointed and yet I do anyway. And then I comment… and it’s hopeless. Just hopeless. The sheer logical disconnects that people are spouting is driving me nuts.
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I didn’t even read the comments this time… I knew I’d end up pissed off and out for blood.
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Yup. And look at the cover of the current COTH - the MacClay winner - crest release. Sigh. I don’t doubt the winner could ridecircles around me (former jumper/eventer who hasn’t jumped anything in about 11 years), but still. I can remember riding eq classes and if I had to go to a crest release thinking, " Damn, I’ve blown this class. "
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I disagree wholeheartedly. The bastardized crest release so many use now is a direct result of trainers who attended clinics and went home to incorrectly apply its use. There are three levels of the release… long, medium and short. It is a progression intended to be used as a TOOL to achieve the following hand. Anyone who actually studied it as intended and applied it correctly would know that. The Application was wrongly utilizedby many who never attended more than one or two clinics. The foundation of lower leg is achieved initially with the “rest and press” in order to save the mouths and backs of our horses rather than hanging on for dear life on the reins. Why do you think gymnastics with “ hands on hips” was such a pivotal part of the program. It’s amazing how many people have zero concept of this to me… flame suit on🔥
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Uh, no, GM did not introduce that crappy, throw yourself on your horse’s neck and take a nap position. He was opposed to that and I agreed 110%. I think my dissapointment in his ban was he was a very knowledgable equestrian and I honestly enjoyed watching him ride the horses in the clinics in January in Florida. He loved horses, that was obvious and while he is arrogant, I enjoyed some of his philosophy with the horses.
The crest release is still correct–there is a very, very old Practical Horseman I have that shows him demonstrating the releases starting from mane release, crest release then out of hand release. The perfect stages for every riding stage. So, that wasn’t on him.
Releases for many had to stay crest release because many of us didn’t teach riders at higher levels or who are jumping height. I made darn sure my students knew how to ride and jump sans reins—but I abhor the divining I’m seeing pros do, making themselves look worse than beginners or the ‘taking a nap’ on the neck over a 2 ft fence. Um, no. Never in my 40 yrs of riding was I taught that–always keep a 45 degree angle between you and the horse, so as you increase height, they jump up to YOU.
Back to Soresi, it turns out he has been judging horses shows and had his judges card reinstated via the USEF years ago. How on EARTH is that even possible??? When there are tons of kids there??? Something is seriously wrong if they allow a pedophile, on a registry, to judge kids!
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His name does not come up on a search of current USEF members, much less as a licensed official.
How is the crest release relevant to a discussion about safe sport?
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Perfectly fine to diddle the kiddies, as long as you don’t take any pictures or videos huh? What a disgusting person she is to think like that.
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My post at #3840 also speaks to this in response to a one off comment.
Not to go on about the crest release, but I’ve seen George teach many clinics and “elite” clinics, including some with pros and never heard him ask anyone to use an automatic release. Yes, it was intended as an intermediate step, (George has always said that) but unfortunately, it has become the end result instead. As you say, kids win Medal classes using it. Funny considering that the auto release was the ‘Gold Standard’ we all we all worked so hard at when I was at Mrs Dillon’s. Even being allowed to attempt it was considered a badge of honour.
I believe it was the Chronicle article that said JS judged shows. Maybe not rated ones? So much for ‘ruining your life’ with a ban. Being molested comes a lot closer to ruining your life. Anyway, sounds like he’s done his time and I can see why - thanks to the Chronicle - he’s been reinstated. Just to be clear, I’m all in favor of that, considering the circumstances.
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The crest release was disseminated by George. I believe he has written about that and a horse-saving measure for beginning riders that got taken up too-widely by riders and/or instructors who never got the fitness and finesse to learn that lovely following hand over a fence. IIRC, he lamented it all, including his part in popularizing it such that the automatic release faded. The Georgeness of it (and the really exaggerated form that the crest release has taken) is the connection to this thread.
That said, (and I think he would agree), y’all need to not lose your minds over riders using the crest release. I’ll be that most riders today can’t reliably execute an automatic release. I was only taught the automatic release as an older junior “for a minute,” as in “this is sophisticate and extra; cool if you can do it, but not what you will do as a matter of course when you are jumping.” Rather, a balanced, non-extreme position and crest release was what I was taught as all I’d need to get the job done in the ring or outside.
I’ll bet that the majority of riders today have not been sent reinless or eyes closed through a gymnastic. And everyone would agree that the modern, busy, unfit rider who learns on school horses jumping just 2’6" in a ring at a lesson barn, or who can go to a multi-day horse show jumping just 2’ or so probably needs the crest release. Or rather, today’s horses need to have this generation of low-level riders do that. Again, I can imagine his lament.
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Let me rephrase, since my earlier question was rhetorical.
The crest release is completely irrelevant to the safe sport discussion. It has nothing to do with the bigger issue at hand.
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Just got this email from USHJA:
Dear USHJA Members,
As an organization, the USHJA is committed to safety and fairness for our members. Our sport produces many positives for our participants. Horses bring horsemanship, sportsmanship, empathy and teamwork into our lives. But let’s face it, whether it is the treatment of horses or people, we also have dark corners of the sport. As a sport and a community, we can and should be better. As equestrians it is our duty to work to make our sport strong and healthy. It is time to step up and no longer tolerate inappropriate behavior and to emerge as a safer and altogether more positive environment for our people and our horses. We should have zero tolerance for cruelty and abuse whether of horses or humans. Victim shaming and blaming is never acceptable.
In the wake of the U.S. Center for SafeSport ban of George Morris, on Monday, November 25 the USHJA Board of Directors voted to re-name the Hunterdon Cup and remove the George H. Morris trophy from the International Hunter Derby.
The USHJA supports the mission of SafeSport. Our support does not make us deaf to the questions raised by many members concerning some of the processes utilized by the U.S. Center for SafeSport.
As part of our educational initiative, we invite you to the USHJA Annual Meeting on Wednesday, December 11 at 4:30 p.m. MT, where we have scheduled a session with Michael Henry, Chief Officer for Response and Resolution of the U.S. Center for SafeSport. He will give a presentation and follow up with a question and answer session. The session will be livestreamed for those not able to attend. More details will be available on the USHJA Annual Meeting website closer to the event.
We are in a difficult and uncomfortable time and our road to comfort, security and purpose is education. Please join us either in person in Denver or through our livestream. This informational session will be an excellent time to gain insight on the inner workings of The Center. For those who cannot attend in person, questions can be sent to AMSafeSportQA@ushja.org.
Thank you for being a member,
Mary Babick
USHJA President
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This just showed up in my Facebook feed:
https://athletesforequity.org/
FAQs.are very interesting includes names, goals and financial disclaimer.
https://athletesforequity.org/faq/
I haven’t really read through all of this… they just do not understand and are spreading all this garbage that the followers believe is truth. I will admit to probably being the most uneducated person on this forum but I am so embarrassed for them…and angry! Maybe USEF and SafeSport should meet with the leaders of athletes for equality to help them understand.
GAG. That’s all I have to say about that.
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I don’t even understand the testimonial page. The system worked accordingly.
Had the person went to the police with false accusations would they be trying to get the entire judicial system changed?
What if the fiance had been a teacher? Or any licensed professional? Would they be trying to get licensing boards changed?
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