Girths again: horse touchy about rib pressure

Hi all–hoping for some feedback on girth types for the delicate flowers out there to avoid dropping a boatload on girth options.

I have a young TB who is reactive to some select things–he came from a hoarder situation 4+ years ago and has settled in quite a bit, but at this point it’s clear that he was underexposed to certain types of handling/stimulus at some key milestone ages and will probably always be a little quirky as a result. (Example…blanketing makes him nervous, still. Once it’s on he’s fine, but getting it up onto him can cue 10 seconds of panic.)

He’s not girthy in the way that I typically think of–no nipping or ear pinning or acting grumpy, but he gets very touchy at initial girth pressure around his ribs, just above and behind the elbows–so right where the buckles of a short girth will hit. He’ll flinch and twitch (like a fly is landing on him but a bit stronger of a reaction), and sometimes I can feel him tense up. I do think it may also be related to muscle soreness in the area. He reacts with a long girth too, but a little less strongly.

I’ve had him in an Ovation gel form girth, which was ok, but didn’t stop the reactivity. I didn’t love how much stretch it had, and it’s relatively narrow. Now he’s in a Nunn Finer Piaffe girth, which seemed to be a bit better, but I’ve now had a few explosive reactions (jumping up and trying to run like something has bitten him, basically) when I tighten the girth to where I’d like it before I get on. I’m starting to think the equalizer straps may create some uneven pressure for a moment or two and that’s making him react. Once he gets over his reaction he settles and acts normal under saddle. That said, I don’t like that the tightening process is making him uncomfortable in some way, even if that feeling seems to pass. I think he may like something that takes pressure off his ribs, but not sure which girth will accomplish this–something like the Stubben Equisoft maybe? I’m very open to suggestions.

And a note–I’ve had eyesight checked more than once, treated for ulcers, he gets monthly bodywork, has had chiro, saddle is professionally refitted by a good independent saddle fitter regularly, regular lameness exams to establish a baseline…and doesn’t show any other signs of discomfort once the rider is up, even just walking off from the block. He’s always been generally touchy about his sides and ribs. I haven’t fully ruled out that there could be some other physical cause that we’re not finding but…he’s also a bit of a quirky, sensitive soul in general so this may just be who he is.

I came here to ask if you tried the Equisoft, so it’s interesting that you mentioned it. While the sternum plane is essentially the same size in all of the sizes, try to get the longest girth you can (the straps will be longer). Try to get the buckles (on any dressage girth, really) as close to the bottom of your saddle pad as possible.

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That’s good advice…I think I’ve already sized that way more or less. I’m also looking at the Correct Connect girth…it seems to have a similar-ish concept to the Equisoft girth, but with a less eye-watering price. It’s occurring to me that it may be pressure lower down on the ribs that he’s reacting to, so this could solve it. The joys of touchy horses.

I like the correct connect one, and so does my mare. I just bought the new sheepskin pads for it. No issues with the flaps that cover the buckles (some people have asked and those here). They look big but I’ve never noticed them while riding.

I find it does about the same job as the WOW freespace girth as far as keeping my horse happy. Both keep the pressure off the muscles/sides and my horse has been immediately less girthy.

ETA: some people talk about elastic causing over tightening, which can cause issues for a lot of horses. The WOW girth has no elastic because of this. I haven’t noticed a huge difference with my horse, but just putting it out there as part of the equation.

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I believe that’s part of Fairfax/ Prolites research as well. I know the Prolites I have have no elastic. I can see the argument against elastic for over tightening but my own human experience is that I like elastic belts much better than leather belts as they “breathe” with me and are more comfortable. Not a 1-1 comparison with the belts but I could see the elastic being more comfortable. All to say - it’s likely worth trying elastic vs non elastic.

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Thanks, that’s good to know. I just basically impulse ordered one. I’m not too concerned about elastic…I’m not a “tighten as far as it goes” person generally anyway. Hoping this may help him out. The overreaction to tightening that’s happened now is borderline dangerous (he got away from me the first time he did it and went for a panic gallop halfway around the arena before he came back over to where I was standing) so…not ideal to say the least.

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I hope it helps!!

I noticed a difference literally on the first girth up with the WOW and I have the same positive experience with the CC. I’ve been through a lot of girths looking for one that works for my horse, and the sternum plate design is the only thing that has helped for mine.

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I know you said he gets bodywork - what are their thoughts on his pecs? My horse can get really tight in that area and it makes him girthy.

Has your body worker done a rib release?

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My gelding was very similar in those types of girths. With the way he’s built, when those girths are tight all of the pressure ends up tilting to the back edge of the girth. He’d tolerate it but was pissy about having his girth tightened, and once I found what he liked it became clear how much the old one had been holding him back under saddle. He needs a girth that’s symmetrical, straight is fine but evenly contoured on both sides is his favorite. He also has strong feelings on leather over fleece or neoprene, so you may have to take those factors into consideration as well. This is what mine is happy in after a lot of trial and error: https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/harwich-dressage-girth-by-smartpak-17773.

I tried a bunch of the fancy anatomical girths and my horse hated most of them. They were “anatomical” but wrong for his specific anatomy. Before you go all in on something niche I would try a wider variety of shapes and materials so you can collect some data on what does and doesn’t work and narrow your search accordingly. If you only try asymmetrical girths and what your horse actually hates is the asymmetrical pressure, you’re not going to solve your problem.

FWIW the Stubben Equisoft looks like something mine would hate. It has the same basic shape as the other girths that haven’t worked for you so that one wouldn’t be high on my list to try.

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IIWM I’d stop putting a girth on this horse until you have a body worker out to fix what’s hurting him. At the very least you’re making him scared and uncomfortable, which will likely teach him that saddles/riding are scary. At the worst he’s going to get loose and hurt himself or someone else.

Hi there,
I second checking reaction in the pectoral area and also behind the elbows You can do that yourself and then call in help if you need it.

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A dangerous and panic galloping response would have me aggressively pursuing diagnostics not a new girth. That’s a serious pain response. Have you scoped for ulcers since since this behavior started.

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As someone that owns and uses this girth, no. Many anatomical or shaped girths were a no for my horse, but this one isn’t, and it’s different with the pressure and elasticity. YMMV and it really was a girth that I discounted for awhile and thought mine wouldn’t like.

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I do agree with what others are saying though. I’d figure out what’s going on physically. That’s really not right and a very dramatic response.

How does your horse react? I had one that would let me tighten the girth, then lurch backwards when he went to move. Turned out it was his sternum needed adjustment. This was a different horse than:

The Total Saddle Fit StretchTec was the game changer for my third horse with his girthing fussing. I had the neoprene liner, but they come in padded leather (got that for my other horse) and sheepskin/fleece (not sure if it’s genuine sheepskin).

However, I mounted with a girth that wasn’t riding tight. I tended to walk around after mounting and tighten it a hole or two before trotting. If I forgot people would tell me they could see daylight between him and the girth.

Also, this horse was my neurological, probable Wobbler.

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I love the WOW Freespace girth.

https://www.wowsaddles.com/freespace

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