Goldendoodle Breeder Recommendations

[ChelseaR]

I don’t know why more people don’t like the idea of a standard poodle rather than a 'doodle… They are really lovely dogs, active, smart, trainable and a nice medium size. Plus you have a a good idea of what you will get from the parents.

I guess the poodle part turns them off? The hair takes some work with grooming and trimming regularly (doesn’t have to be a show cut through - puppy type cuts are cute and non-froufrou) the hair maintenance goes along with the non-shedding part anyhow so isn’t avoided in a 'doodle.

[faybe]

OP, I had the same conversation with my mother and my sister, and both still decided to go with goldendoodles :grief:. That said, both of their dogs are quite adorable. The breeder claimed to do as much screening as I’ve seen with this “breed” and, like I said, they are both lovely tempered dogs, seem to have been well socialized, etc. This is who they got them from: http://goldendoodles.com/breeders/hilltoppups.htm

[ElisLove]

[QUOTE=faybe;8534039]
OP, I had the same conversation with my mother and my sister, and both still decided to go with goldendoodles :grief:. That said, both of their dogs are quite adorable. The breeder claimed to do as much screening as I’ve seen with this “breed” and, like I said, they are both lovely tempered dogs, seem to have been well socialized, etc. This is who they got them from: http://goldendoodles.com/breeders/hilltoppups.htm[/QUOTE]

WOW, that’s a LOT of breeding dogs!

[suz]

Fwiw i live with an Aussie doodle who is one of the smartest and nicest dogs I’'ve had the pleasure of knowing.
She is also a total goofball and looks like a standard poodle with blue eyes and blue merle coat.
She is groomed proffessionally every eight weeks, has a medium energy level and seemingly trains herself.
I thought my friend had lost her mind when she told me this was a planned breeding, but knowing this dog i see why.
Very very nice dog.

[Countrywood]

On principle I think the whole thing is ridiculous. But I have to say the people that own golden doodles and labradoodles seem happy with them and there are virtually none seen in shelters or rescue; not yet…because as we have seen, any time a dog gets popular it gets over bred, then people go on to the next fad dog and start dumping the problem ones or ones they have outgrown. That is in fact what happened to the poodle breed. They just are not the fad now, the fad are these designer mixes. The GD and LD bother me far less than all the tiny mixes but here they are.

Give her your opinion once and then stay out of it. She is going to do what she is going to do and will probably end up with a decent puppy. Eventually a new fad mix or breed will come along and only the devoted breeders of GD and LD will remain; the rest will switch to the new fad and we’ll see a bunch of retired breeding Gd and LD dogs at rescues.

[S1969]

[QUOTE=GraceLikeRain;8533981]
I believe that prior to breeding a bitch or dog they should be evaluated for (a) disposition (b) structural sounds © genetic health (d) screened for any diseases or disorders prevalent in the breed (e) proven in the ring or field with associated titles.

To date I have not encountered a doodle breeder who takes all of these steps. If there is a doodle breeder in the southeast who is breeding tested and proven stock with an emphasis on the above parameters I’d like to have that information on hand. If they decide to go that direction I’d prefer to steer them towards the best option available. [/QUOTE]

I bet they are out there, but don’t advertise. In theory there is nothing wrong with the creation of a new breed – all breeds were created/developed out of other, existing breeds. But there has to be some standard, and breeding toward that standard…and a way of evaluating the offspring to know if you’re getting what you want. You have to eliminate the ones with the incorrect coat, temperament, health, etc. from the breeding pool, which most of the “Doodlebreeder” and Guardian model breeders don’t seem to do.

And it takes generations.

If she likes the curly coat, maybe she can find a nice curly coated retriever breeder instead. Good luck!

[Countrywood]

Imo, the appeal of the GD and LD are dogs designed to have the “doginess” bred out of them ( why I personally find them pleasant but boring).

[scierra]

[QUOTE=Countrywood;8534117]
On principle I think the whole thing is ridiculous. But I have to say the people that own golden doodles and labradoodles seem happy with them and there are virtually none seen in shelters or rescue; not yet…because as we have seen, any time a dog gets popular it gets over bred, then people go on to the next fad dog and start dumping the problem ones or ones they have outgrown. That is in fact what happened to the poodle breed. They just are not the fad now, the fad are these designer mixes. The GD and LD bother me far less than all the tiny mixes but here they are.

Give her your opinion once and then stay out of it. She is going to do what she is going to do and will probably end up with a decent puppy. Eventually a new fad mix or breed will come along and only the devoted breeders of GD and LD will remain; the rest will switch to the new fad and we’ll see a bunch of retired breeding Gd and LD dogs at rescues.[/QUOTE]

I’ve seen plenty of doodles in the shelter where I worked. They were not nice dogs for the most part. I did the behavior evaluations and most were hyper and quite a few were aggressive to the point of not being adoptable through our program. It could have been that there was a bad breeder in the area and these dogs were all from the same stock though. The reason I’m thinking that is we had aggressive Bloodhounds turned in and with research found they were all from the same lines.

I just wish people would call these so called designer breeds what they are and quit making it a breed. It’s a mixed breed, Golden Poodle mix, Lab Poodle mix, not this or that doodle. Where I live now the “breed” people like is a Cabachon (sp?). Cavalier Bichon mix. There are wonderful mixed breeds out there and purebreds, but call them what they are. Off my soapbox now. And I’ll spend the day with my Pit MIX.

[shea_smom]

They have lots of mutts at the shelter tht need homes. I hate these pretent breeds, speaking as someone who spends tons of my own money saving dogs from getting killed in shelters.

[Countrywood]

I hate it too, trust me, and it took all my resolve not to lecture my good friend BOTH times (years apart) when she spent big $ buying labradoodles…(she is very stubborn and would not have listened to me)

I get my dogs from shelters/rescue and they all are/were healthier than any designer breed dogs I know…except present one but his issues are only due to some injuries he sustained during the period of time he was on the street. It is painful to see the many fine dogs PTS while people go around spending big $ on designer breeds.

[MsM]

[QUOTE=Marshfield;8533745]
It would be unlikely that there would be any puppies available in a litter already on the ground. If you’re talking a puppy from health tested and titled parents, the puppies are likely spoken for long before even being born. I bred a bitch today. If all goes well and she has a healthy litter, there are no puppies who don’t have a home already waiting for them.[/QUOTE]

Interesting. That has not been my experience with Standards. Once the non-show pups are identified, finding good (non doodle breeder) homes has not been as easy as with smaller poodles. And when a client ends up with 12 puppies in a NYC apartment (penthouse, but still!) they are pretty motivated

[S1969]

[QUOTE=MsM;8534194]
Interesting. That has not been my experience with Standards. Once the non-show pups are identified, finding good (non doodle breeder) homes has not been as easy as with smaller poodles. And when a client ends up with 12 puppies in a NYC apartment (penthouse, but still!) they are pretty motivated[/QUOTE]

Well, an unexpectedly large litter can throw a monkey wrench into any good breeder’s best laid plans, but many of the good breeders I know announce the breeding and start taking deposits immediately, even before the breeding is confirmed, if they don’t already have an existing waiting list for an upcoming litter.

I can’t imagine not doing this - I know some breeders that don’t; they find the waiting list more difficult to manage than finding the homes after the puppies are born…but this would stress me out to no end. Maybe that’s why I am not a breeder.

[maybedog]

I have a friend who is one of the first breeders of Goldendoodles. She is probably the only one who is doing it right as far as mixed breeds go and always has a long waiting list for her puppies. Personally, I would never “buy” a dog. Mine have always been rescues. Here is her website.http://www.goldendoodles.net

[kcmel]

I must admit to a secret desire for a goldendoodle. I think they are the cutest dogs I’ve ever seen! But they do seem hyper (and some of the ones I’ve seen are huge!). But I am not getting a dog until I retire, so I’m not currently in danger…

[Sannois]

[QUOTE=Countrywood;8534156]
Imo, the appeal of the GD and LD are dogs designed to have the “doginess” bred out of them ( why I personally find them pleasant but boring).[/QUOTE]
LOL How do you breed “Dogginess” out of a DOG?

[Countrywood]

Now mini golden doodles are the fad, since the original ones are so large next we will see the large ones at shelters as people dump them for a mini doodle. And then will come a micro doodle for those that like putting dogs in purses.

Breeders will do whatever the public demands it seems, even the so called “good” breeders…of which imo there is in reality very few because good breeders would so limit the # of litters sold they would be doing it for love not money and they would never start breeding smaller just to meet demand.

[Sunsets]

@Countrywood;8534341

Now mini golden doodles are the fad, since the original ones are so large next we will see the large ones at shelters as people dump them for a mini doodle. And then will come a micro doodle for those that like putting dogs in purses.

So is this reasoning why I suddenly see an explosion of mini-Aussies? I don’t get it, why not find a nice blue merle Sheltie if you are looking for that kind of dog?

And I laugh at the “purse dog” comment. My friend has a very cute wee tiny chi/papillion (we think) mix who was the NASTIEST little bastard to ever walk the ground. Probably why he ended up in a rescue. She’s been incredibly patient with him, and he can now be trusted not to bite anyone that comes near. However, his loyalty lies with her and only with her. So now he’s a foster failure and her personal sidekick.

He would be a nightmare for 95% of the rest of the population that wants a cute dog.

[Countrywood]

That was a bit of a joke… They breed to get aggression out, and while nobody wants a dog snarling etc, to keep breeding dogs that behave like overgrown puppies their whole life who will smooch everyone indiscriminately including an intruder with little natural instincts of defending home or owner, well to me at least that is breeding some of the essence, natural “doginess” out of a dog …( as is breeding for a hair type for allergies of people)

[Sunsets]

[QUOTE=Countrywood;8534361]
That was a bit of a joke… They breed to get aggression out, and while nobody wants a dog snarling etc, to keep breeding dogs that behave like overgrown puppies their whole life who will smooch everyone indiscriminately including an intruder with little natural instincts of defending home or owner, [/QUOTE]

Ha! The only GD I ever met close up was in our basic obedience class. She was owned by a sweet old lady who had no idea what to do with the explosion of furry, overly friendly doggy goofiness. That thing was like a pre-schooler with serious ADD - “Oh HI!!! HI!!! HI DOG!!! HI PERSON!!! HI OTHER DOG!!!”.

I never saw them again after the first class, which consisted of the owner meekly stating “Now Maggie…sit? Oh, Maggie, oh, look over here…” I hope they got some private lessons.

[Sswor]

@Sunsets;8534360

So is this reasoning why I suddenly see an explosion of mini-Aussies? I don’t get it, why not find a nice blue merle Sheltie if you are looking for that kind of dog?

I dunno, maybe because shelties are constant barkers and have serious problems with anal glands?

There’s nothing wrong with breeding crossbred dogs. And there’s nothing wrong with wanting a crossbred dog.

I have a good friend who trains service dogs. They are starting to work with Goldendoodles to provide service dogs to people with dog allergies, with great success I might add. They also use Labs and Goldens. They breed their own, buy from local breeders, and pull from shelters, but only puppies under a certain age.