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Good Guinness Missing

Hunter/Jumper
#41

[QUOTE=Roulett;3937592]
I just got the email blast on missing GP horse but the photo’s of the imposter are
very small – I have lifted them off my original emails from a few days ago so
you can see them better and possibly ID imposted horse. I hope this works, I’m
not real familiar with this photobucket program.

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/russianjumper86/IMG_0445.jpg

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/russianjumper86/wrong.jpg[/QUOTE]

Well, if this is the “Imposter Horse,” even I can tell that it isn’t the right horse and has the wrong markings (and I’m no pro). I’ve hacked alongside GG as well and the fake GG even looks smaller.

#42

the white markings on the faces are not even close

As my Granny used to say to me when I was a child,when my “stories” used to be a bit suspect, I smell a dead rat in several people’s pocket. And if he was mine, no messing around with Jessica Fletcher, it would be Jack Bauer all the way!
I sure hope he is safe and found soon.

#43

[QUOTE=Dun Ciarain;3937642]
Well, if this is the “Imposter Horse,” even I can tell that it isn’t the right horse and has the wrong markings (and I’m no pro). I’ve hacked alongside GG as well and the fake GG even looks smaller.[/QUOTE]

Here they are side by side HEAD SHOT — playing with photobucket on this one — I don’t
think they look anything alike!

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/russianjumper86/Picture1.jpg

#44

[QUOTE=nycjumper;3937606]
Thanks for the clarification. :wink: I’m quite sure there was documentation. It appears from the original post is that the horses were similar enough in height, color, marking that GG’s coggins, etc could be used. My point is that people seem to be blaming original rider for not checking in sooner and quite frankly, I’m not sure why he would if he was notified horse arrived safely & was on track to show at WEF in Jan.

There appears to be a lot of questions going around

  1. If Ali has been at WEF for months - did he not check in & notice the horse was different?
  2. The missing teeth/scars on legs prob would have raised an alarm bell - that seems strange that no one asked about that
  3. A GP horse showing in C/A Jumpers??

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.[/QUOTE]

I don’t really question a GP horse showing in the Ch/A jumpers. I currently own 2 ex grand prix horses. I started with both in the AA jumpers. They gave me confidence because the knew what they were doing and had enough scope to get out.
If someone has that type of money, wants to move up I find nothing unusual about mounting someone on a GP horse for the ch/a jumpers.

#45

There’s a thread on h/j with more info…

I dunno, given the value of the horse I find it much more likely that it was swapped/switched at some point, and if sold, sold for a reasonably high amount of money, rather than possibly ending up at a feedlot or mexican rodeo… but you never know…

#46

Which website is she referring to that has the photos? :confused::confused::confused:

#47

was also going to say that my friend bought a GP horse and shows him in the AA jumpers - why? Because she could. Simple as that.

#48

But that’s not really the point here… This horse was sent east to be sold. Running a GP horse around the AA’s is REALLY crappy marketing, IMHO…

And, as they say – “something is DEFINITELY rotten in the state of Denmark”

Those two horses look nothing alike… (ok, they’re both brown).
Seb :slight_smile:

#49

Go over to the H/J forum. It’s all laid out there.
Seb :slight_smile:

#50

The horse according to the original post was sent to be a high jr/ao horse. High Jr/AO - at WEF. That’s a long way from C/A. So methinks that would again raise some questions somewhere along the line.

No one is questioning that there are (although I would think usually ex) GP horses in the AA ring. But again, not the point nor again, going off the OP, was the intention for this specific horse.

#51

I find it highly irritating that people are doubting the details of the story. With the FBI involved I’m sure things are moving how they should and truth is being told, or found out.

#52

OK - let me try this

See if this link works to view the entire flyer. I just got it again today, so I hope this works:

http://equestrisol.com/goodguinness/GoodGuinness.html

#53

I just posted a link to the flyer that I hope will work over in the H/J forum. Here it is again:

http://equestrisol.com/goodguinness/GoodGuinness.html

#54

[QUOTE=CaliforniaSyndrome;3937825]
I find it highly irritating that people are doubting the details of the story. With the FBI involved I’m sure things are moving how they should and truth is being told, or found out.[/QUOTE]

Irritating???

What is irritating is that someone can send a horse across the country to a reputable trainer and no one bothered to verify the horse was the right one until six months later. If someone had bothered to check the markings, which are obviously different, six months wouldn’t have passed. It is amazing that a package sent by FexEx or UPS for $10 or $20 has far more documentation, prove of sending and prove of delivery than an expensive horse had in this case.

#55

Does anyone else remember the weird story about the TB stallion who was supposed to be shipped from the UK (?) to Australia. After a few months, it was discovered that the wrong stallion was in Australia and the right one was somewhere like the Czech Republic.

If a round the world mix-up can happen, surely a transcontinental one could as well.

#56

good guinness will be foul play!!

FOUL PLAY ABOUNDS…but who is the playa? Earl Jacque, Patrick Seaton, or Maddens? Or Ali Nour-what’s-his-name?

OR The Attorney Owner???

I think they should bring in the reporters who exposed the insurance fraud schemes of decades gone by.

Hopefully, the horse is okay. that is all that is important for now.

#57

If it was a honest mistake, I think we can assume that someone somewhere is really thrilled with the horse they bought as their new low level jumper who turned out to be such a superstar!

Hopefully GG is ok and safe somewhere.

#58

If BLBGP…IF

Yes. IF…But one would think if a hauler messed up, delivered wrong horse…or whatever…the other horse wouldn’t so closely resemble the horse that was supposed to be delivered.

#59

Mistaken identity

[QUOTE=horsegurl;3938017]
Yes. IF…But one would think if a hauler messed up, delivered wrong horse…or whatever…the other horse wouldn’t so closely resemble the horse that was supposed to be delivered.[/QUOTE]

Actually, the horses being so similar would make it easier for the hauler to make a mistake.

But there are several things in the story as related that are questionable. It remains to be seen whether those inconsistancies are because of something nefarious, or because the story is getting muddled in the retelling.

I wouldn’t be so quick to cast aspersions on the folks involved until something official comes out.

#60

yes…

…I can see your point. And yes, the story is snowballing thru the generations of the story tellers!

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