But the day before the big show, the winning of which is the only way to straighten everything out and have a happily ever after, GG turns up lame. Fortunately, the big hearted, thought to be less talented Kanye is still there, and she is able to ride the GP clean and everybody, including Kanye, gets a happily ever after.
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But the day before the big show, the winning of which is the only way to straighten everything out and have a happily ever after, GG turns up lame. Fortunately, the big hearted, thought to be less talented Kanye is still there, and she is able to ride the GP clean and everybody, including Kanye, gets a happily ever after.[/QUOTE]
Awesome!! Now that’s a Hollywood Ending! 
Wow you guys really ran with that.
No No, no connection
No No, I am so sorry if you thought there was a connection. I probably threw you off when I said he was black which he was. Not for one nano second are the Volturno thing and this, connected!. It is just that someone brought Volturno up on this thread and said it was because of “a mistake” on the part of a drug smuggler. I was suprised and wanted to know if that was that definately found out? I was thinking that possibly years later something else had come to light and I had missed hearing about it. There were many theories but as I remember it, nothing was ever found out that was really definate and the crime was never solved. It forever remained a mystery. That’s all.
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No No, I am so sorry if you thought there was a connection. I probably threw you off when I said he was black which he was. Not for one nano second are the Volturno thing and this, connected!. It is just that someone brought Volturno up on this thread and said it was because of “a mistake” on the part of a drug smuggler. I was suprised and wanted to know if that was that definately found out? I was thinking that possibly years later something else had come to light and I had missed hearing about it. There were many theories but as I remember it, nothing was ever found out that was really definate and the crime was never solved. It forever remained a mystery. That’s all.[/QUOTE]
I got it now. The color reference did confuse me.
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I think they said $200k earlier.
(sounds about right for a GP horse that jumps by Braille)[/QUOTE]
LOL I’m going to start using this analogy!! :lol:
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Like repeatedly killing horses for insuance money? I wouldn’t have thought that was a smart thing to do, or something you can get away with.[/QUOTE]
You don’t think that practice has stopped, do you? Or that everyone was caught??
Only the people who hired Tommy Burns were caught. The people who did it themselves all got away with it, and I would guess still are.
Hay
My question is:
If imposter horse was at Frank Madden’s for 6 months…and it wasn’t the horse that was supposed to be there…would you then get a refund on the board?
Arh, arh! Hope all is safe and both horses go to respective homes.
Okay back to finish reading the entire thread…
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You don’t think that practice has stopped, do you? Or that everyone was caught??
Only the people who hired Tommy Burns were caught. The people who did it themselves all got away with it, and I would guess still are.[/QUOTE]
No, I don’t necessarily think it has stopped entirely… but what happened scared a significant number of people straight.
People cheat, lie, and steal-- and a lot of the time they get caught! It may not make headlines, but people get caught.
I just don’t agree that it’s fair to say Person X would NEVER try to switch horses because they’d know it wouldn’t work. People who are dishonest to the core aren’t always thinking about practicalities. They are often opportunistic. The moment arises when something crooked can be done and they do it. They don’t necessarily plan well or weigh the consequences/likelihood of being caught.
In this case, if all of GG’s connections had continued to be as complacent as they were at first-- who knows if they would have caught on?! If Kanye/Con Air had sold from Frank’s, and that buyer had no idea, who would be the wiser? Maybe no one would have bothered/cared… I don’t know…
But I do know that people who do unethical/criminal actions don’t always work out a realistic cost-benefit analysis first. Or else we wouldn’t have a criminal justice system.
One of the most horrific crimes my agency has ever been involved in, a brutal and senseless abduction and murder of a delivery man, was solved within two days because the STUPID criminals used the victim’s credit card immediately after the crime to buy cigarettes and beer! :eek: Which was caught on surveillance video. Which led to the identification of STUPID bad guy. Which led to his arrest less than 48 hours after the murder because he was using the credit card again at a WalMart!!
Lots and lots of criminals are really not very bright and do really believe they will not get caught.
And lots of them are very smart, but its the thrill of the game they love, not just a profit motive. They take risks because its no fun if there is no danger of discovery. Or they are so full of themselves they think they are too clever or too charming to pay any price.
I run across that all the time. I say “Well, they wouldn’t be that stupid, would they?” But now I can just answer the question myself. Yes. And what consequences? Before COTH and the internet there were no real consequences except if you messed with an insurance company.
You can’t have a story with boy meets girl unless boy then loses girl and gets girl back. So boy must be aware of the scheme but for the love of a good woman turns his back on his cheating father and earns the trust of the girl. This may require the use of a boombox or whatever the young folks use to play music these days. Perhaps a heartfelt You-tube confession that is used to get all the bad guys thrown in jail!
Those guys killed horses (and at least one human) for over 20 years before they got caught, and they only got caught after they killed Brach. We’ll never know how many horses were killed for the insurance money. And that doesn’t include all the barn fires that happened.
We have serial murderers of people in the USA who have never been caught and travel around virtually unknown to law enforcement. Killing horses has been much easier and will continue.
BTW bayboys, our (armed robbery) killers in Atlanta always used the victims’ cell phones to call their girlfriends (plural) and mothers, so they were pretty easy to track down.
Glad to see an explanation on the homepage of the Chronicle!
No, everyone doesn’t get caught. But a lot of people do. Even if it takes time.
Regardless, that misses the point. The point is that many dishonest people don’t weigh the consequences before they act. So to argue “this couldn’t have been intentional because it didn’t/wouldn’t work” doesn’t really fly, at least IMHO.
I think some types even LIKE thinking they did something quasi-obvious, right under people’s noses, and didn’t get caught. That’s a thrill for some types.
Hay
A question: If the imposter horse went to FLA for WEG, why wasn’t he clipped? He’s all fuzzy in the photos? Is that the real pict of the imposter horse?
IDK. But Hay! The Holsteiner Con Air is a breeding stallion. Maybe the chip gives his sires name? Thus the Impostor horse really is named Kanye and his chip is in the name of his sire and some other complicated stuff I am too lazy to look up. Like how they keep their sire name until they earn their wings and get real names of their own? Like . . . Rudolph:)
What if horses were scanned for chips at horse shows, to help be sure they were the right horse showing?
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What if horses were scanned for chips at horse shows, to help be sure they were the right horse showing?[/QUOTE]
Since horses are constantly coming and going at shows, especially big shows, you would need to scan them every time they entered the ring to make sure it was the right horse. I can see it now - a scanning fee of $5 added to every class :mad:
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But the day before the big show, the winning of which is the only way to straighten everything out and have a happily ever after, GG turns up lame. Fortunately, the big hearted, thought to be less talented Kanye is still there, and she is able to ride the GP clean and everybody, including Kanye, gets a happily ever after.[/QUOTE]
I need my box of kleenex, definite academy awards in this one…
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:yes::yes::yes:
It IS just like a bad Hollywood film, because we are all supposed to suspend disbelief and accept the story as it is being fed to us.[/QUOTE]
Can we make it a Bollywood Film so there’s bright colors and dancing horses? :lol:
