Grain free diet for a tb?

[BoyleHeightsKid]

@quietann

There was a TB at my old barn who had similar issues and needed to be on a grain free diet. He got a lot of soaked alfalfa pellets, beet pulp etc. plus a combined feed similar to what you are using. He got four meals a day because he would only eat so much at one time. He did fine on it, and mixing his feed into the alfalfa pellets was useful.

I was also going to suggest smaller more frequent feedings throughout the day.

OP more people have success with beet pulp than not. It’s worth a shot putting it in place of the Ultimate Finish. It’s cheap and its all fiber so great for the gut… especially the hindgut which can be very hard to treat. My new guy wouldn’t touch it at first, so I would mix in a small amount of Sentinel Performance LS, which is what my old man does very well on. Now he LOVES his beep and hoovers it up. I also think you should keep the alfalfa.

[JB]

@Horsechick200

Unfournetly, the UF does contain grain.

Are you referring to the Ultimate Finish?

The ingredients are:
Vegetable Fat Partially Hydrogenated (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Artificial Flavor.

UF is a solid fat product. No grains.

According to his old owner at the track, he’s always done best on textured feeds. I can’t find one that is grain free,

What is your definition of grain - cereal grains? Triple Crown Sr is textured with no cereal grains

[mmeqcenter]

Tribute Kalm N EZ has a textured version, no corn and no molasses.
https://tributeequinenutrition.com/s…e%20T920EZ.pdf

[BoyleHeightsKid]

@JB maybe she’s talking about the UF 25…

Heat-Processed Soybeans, Flaxseed, Ground Wheat, Vegetable Oil, Brewers Rice, Soy Hulls, Steam-Rolled Oats, Stabilized Rice Bran, Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Oxide, Artificial Flavor…etc.

[millerra]

:oWell, I know this is going against many… and I know little about weaning off ulcer meds but I have several TBs. I had a devil of a time keeping weight on a couple on processed feeds. I switched to plain oats (~ 5 lbs per day) plus a small amount of ration balancer (1 cup per feeding) and/or mineral for pasture horses (for the retired guys) and all the hay they can eat. Right now, when it is so cold (-20 F) here for lows - each one is packing away 1 small square bale of grass/alfalfa mix per day. They all gain weight over the winter (get fat in other words)
I know this doesn’t work if they don’t eat… but maybe, when he is eating again - simpler is better?

[BoyleHeightsKid]

@millerra I don’t think weight is a problem here. I think the problem is (someone correct me if I’m wrong) when she’s introducing things that contain “grain” he quits eating and starts exhibiting ulcery symptoms again. She treats for a couple of weeks and then he starts eating again. I do agree simpler is better though and maybe introducing one thing at a time will help.

[JB]

@BoyleHeightsKid

@JB maybe she’s talking about the UF 25…

Heat-Processed Soybeans, Flaxseed, Ground Wheat, Vegetable Oil, Brewers Rice, Soy Hulls, Steam-Rolled Oats, Stabilized Rice Bran, Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Oxide, Artificial Flavor…etc.

Oh, that could be - I just looked at the link in that post

[Palm_Beach]

@BoyleHeightsKid

@millerra I don’t think weight is a problem here. I think the problem is (someone correct me if I’m wrong) when she’s introducing things that contain “grain” he quits eating and starts exhibiting ulcery symptoms again. She treats for a couple of weeks and then he starts eating again. I do agree simpler is better though and maybe introducing one thing at a time will help.

I agree that simpler is better, and most of the supplement she was feeding are redundant in that her concentrate already has them in it. I think she should start with her concentrate, and if he eats that good and she really really really really think he needs additional supps, add one at a time for a couple weeks to see if he objects.

Anyone see that episode of Friends where Rachel makes a dish - and two pages of the magazine were glued together? it was half shepherd’s pie and half trifle. Lots of good stuff in there, but all that mixed together? Ewwwww!!!